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		<title>By: mybeano</title>
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		<dc:creator>mybeano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just paid what was a lot of money (to me, anyway) for a tambourine to be
sent to my daughter for Valentine&#039;s Day. I ordered it from Musician&#039;s
Friend on February 9. I paid extra for expedited shipping. I AM SO ANGRY!

Musician&#039;s Friend:
1. Sent the package via USPS parcel post (the cheapest, slowest service possible) rather than FED EX Second Day Air.
2. Sent it to the WRONG PERSON (using my name rather than my daughter&#039;s) (And will the mail room at my daughter&#039;s dorm figure that out? Fat Chance!)
3. Gave me an invalid tracking number, apparently just making one up.
4. When I asked about the invalid tracking number, said that USPS sometimes just &quot;recycles&quot; tracking numbers. That is a LIE!
5. Said that maybe they will give me a refund IF I SEND THE PACKAGE BACK. But I don&#039;t have the package! (Given the switching of names, the fact that my daughter and I have different last names, and the vagaries of a college mail room, I&#039;m willing to bet that I&#039;ll NEVER have it. Nor will my daughter!)
6. Certainly the opportunity for the once-in-a-lifetime little Valentine&#039;s Day surprise is over forever.
7. This is my daughter&#039;s picture. Shouldn&#039;t she have had a tambourine for Valentine&#039;s Day?

Be careful when using Musician&#039;s Friend. Find an honest, reliable company.</description>
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sent to my daughter for Valentine&#8217;s Day. I ordered it from Musician&#8217;s<br />
Friend on February 9. I paid extra for expedited shipping. I AM SO ANGRY!</p>
<p>Musician&#8217;s Friend:<br />
1. Sent the package via USPS parcel post (the cheapest, slowest service possible) rather than FED EX Second Day Air.<br />
2. Sent it to the WRONG PERSON (using my name rather than my daughter&#8217;s) (And will the mail room at my daughter&#8217;s dorm figure that out? Fat Chance!)<br />
3. Gave me an invalid tracking number, apparently just making one up.<br />
4. When I asked about the invalid tracking number, said that USPS sometimes just &#8220;recycles&#8221; tracking numbers. That is a LIE!<br />
5. Said that maybe they will give me a refund IF I SEND THE PACKAGE BACK. But I don&#8217;t have the package! (Given the switching of names, the fact that my daughter and I have different last names, and the vagaries of a college mail room, I&#8217;m willing to bet that I&#8217;ll NEVER have it. Nor will my daughter!)<br />
6. Certainly the opportunity for the once-in-a-lifetime little Valentine&#8217;s Day surprise is over forever.<br />
7. This is my daughter&#8217;s picture. Shouldn&#8217;t she have had a tambourine for Valentine&#8217;s Day?</p>
<p>Be careful when using Musician&#8217;s Friend. Find an honest, reliable company.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; 10 Ways to Spend Your Tax Refund for Fun on Consumerism Commentary: A Personal Finance Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/02/20/tips-for-purchasing-a-musical-instrument-for-the-non-professional/#comment-90357</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; 10 Ways to Spend Your Tax Refund for Fun on Consumerism Commentary: A Personal Finance Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] your collection. Add something to your collection that will make you proud. If music is your hobby, buy a new instrument that you will enjoy. If photography is your thing, get some new [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mapgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mapgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 05:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm hm hm.. Dunno what I think of this as I look at a piano my sibling and I have not played seriously since we were 8. (over 20 years ago) It&#039;s a nice second mantelpiece on which my mom places figurines.

Oh yeah, and that flute I played for 5 years with school ensemble orchestra and marching band. Hm. Well I guess those were good years and worth the money, but again, I haven&#039;t really touched it for 20 years. (DANG FLEXO! WHEN DID I GET SO OLD?)

I ended up bartering the flute for some massage therapy treatments from a friend of mine who just finished her CMT. She plays it more than I ever would and that makes me, her and the instrument happy.

String instruments are ok to buy used I think since nearly all my violinist friends play instruments older than we are. One girl&#039;s bow is actually worth more than her violin, which reminds me to say that your instrument should be insured if it&#039;s of value. Her bow and violin were valued at around $10K. Losing it in a fire would have sucked.

It&#039;s best to inherit an instrument from a family member or friend. (I say this as I think of my deceased grandfather&#039;s cherished violin and the endearing, but annoying way he would play it at 8am on a Saturday to wake us all up.) There are certain older construction methods used by luthiers which make better sound than buying new stuff. Learned this about Gibson mandolins from a friend, and I think that holds true for say... Stradivarius vs Yamaha.

As far as mouthpieces on woodwinds, I&#039;m not sure what you mean. Technically flutes are classed as woodwinds, and you could theoretically sterilize a flute with an alcohol swab. You must mean something like clarinets and saxaphones. Or do I have that wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm hm hm.. Dunno what I think of this as I look at a piano my sibling and I have not played seriously since we were 8. (over 20 years ago) It&#8217;s a nice second mantelpiece on which my mom places figurines.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and that flute I played for 5 years with school ensemble orchestra and marching band. Hm. Well I guess those were good years and worth the money, but again, I haven&#8217;t really touched it for 20 years. (DANG FLEXO! WHEN DID I GET SO OLD?)</p>
<p>I ended up bartering the flute for some massage therapy treatments from a friend of mine who just finished her CMT. She plays it more than I ever would and that makes me, her and the instrument happy.</p>
<p>String instruments are ok to buy used I think since nearly all my violinist friends play instruments older than we are. One girl&#8217;s bow is actually worth more than her violin, which reminds me to say that your instrument should be insured if it&#8217;s of value. Her bow and violin were valued at around $10K. Losing it in a fire would have sucked.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s best to inherit an instrument from a family member or friend. (I say this as I think of my deceased grandfather&#8217;s cherished violin and the endearing, but annoying way he would play it at 8am on a Saturday to wake us all up.) There are certain older construction methods used by luthiers which make better sound than buying new stuff. Learned this about Gibson mandolins from a friend, and I think that holds true for say&#8230; Stradivarius vs Yamaha.</p>
<p>As far as mouthpieces on woodwinds, I&#8217;m not sure what you mean. Technically flutes are classed as woodwinds, and you could theoretically sterilize a flute with an alcohol swab. You must mean something like clarinets and saxaphones. Or do I have that wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Angela: With string instruments (not electric) the quality of the instrument doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t really change over time...

This is not true with solid top guitars. As solid top guitars are played, the tend to develop a fuller, mellower sound. It has something to do with the wood molecules becoming &quot;aligned&quot; to the sound vibrations and the stress placed on them by the strings.

If you have a laminate top guitar (formed from many different layers of wood pressed together into a single sheet), it won&#039;t. The addition of a solid top is actually one of the common price point breaks on guitars.

Certainly, you should never buy a guitar with a harsh sound, counting on it to mellow, but to be strictly accurate...

And I can&#039;t agree with Flexo enough about auditioning instruments. When I bought my Taylor 414-CE, I auditioned EVERY Taylor within my price range at two different Guitar Centers, as well as about half the Martins at the first one. Even within the same model, tone will vary from instrument to instrument: my 414-CE sounds great (to me, at least), the one on sale across town was a bit too trebly.

If you&#039;re bringing an experienced player (that you&#039;re comfortable with) also consider having them audition the instrument for you. Years ago, when my Dad decided he didn&#039;t want to be the only person in the family who couldn&#039;t play guitar, he dragged me to the music store with him. He tested out the guitars for feel himself, but had me play a variety of styles so he could focus on the tone of the instrument.

The same even goes for things like pianos, where a subtle difference in the weighting of the keys came make a big difference in playability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Angela: With string instruments (not electric) the quality of the instrument doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t really change over time&#8230;</p>
<p>This is not true with solid top guitars. As solid top guitars are played, the tend to develop a fuller, mellower sound. It has something to do with the wood molecules becoming &#8220;aligned&#8221; to the sound vibrations and the stress placed on them by the strings.</p>
<p>If you have a laminate top guitar (formed from many different layers of wood pressed together into a single sheet), it won&#8217;t. The addition of a solid top is actually one of the common price point breaks on guitars.</p>
<p>Certainly, you should never buy a guitar with a harsh sound, counting on it to mellow, but to be strictly accurate&#8230;</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t agree with Flexo enough about auditioning instruments. When I bought my Taylor 414-CE, I auditioned EVERY Taylor within my price range at two different Guitar Centers, as well as about half the Martins at the first one. Even within the same model, tone will vary from instrument to instrument: my 414-CE sounds great (to me, at least), the one on sale across town was a bit too trebly.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re bringing an experienced player (that you&#8217;re comfortable with) also consider having them audition the instrument for you. Years ago, when my Dad decided he didn&#8217;t want to be the only person in the family who couldn&#8217;t play guitar, he dragged me to the music store with him. He tested out the guitars for feel himself, but had me play a variety of styles so he could focus on the tone of the instrument.</p>
<p>The same even goes for things like pianos, where a subtle difference in the weighting of the keys came make a big difference in playability.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re looking to buy a violin / viola / cello then buying used is actually a good way to go, especially for a kid as people grow out of theirs. 

Also, lots of people upgrade once they get good, so you should be able to get a reasonable instrument for a beginner second hand.

With string instruments (not electric) the quality of the instrument doesn&#039;t really change over time and there isn&#039;t much you can do to wreck it that won&#039;t be obvious when you look at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re looking to buy a violin / viola / cello then buying used is actually a good way to go, especially for a kid as people grow out of theirs. </p>
<p>Also, lots of people upgrade once they get good, so you should be able to get a reasonable instrument for a beginner second hand.</p>
<p>With string instruments (not electric) the quality of the instrument doesn&#8217;t really change over time and there isn&#8217;t much you can do to wreck it that won&#8217;t be obvious when you look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pawn shops should be a choice only if you are not serious about getting the best experience out of playing music.  The chance of getting an instrument in excellent condition is pretty low.  It&#039;s kind of like buying a mattress.  Used instruments have had &quot;intimate&quot; contact with other people... and if you&#039;re getting one from a pawn shop, you have no idea how many other people have been putting their lips or hands on the instrument.

Savvy: I got the D-15 for about $800.  The market price used to be a bit lower several years ago, but higher demand (it&#039;s a good instrument) and lower supply have caused it to increase a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pawn shops should be a choice only if you are not serious about getting the best experience out of playing music.  The chance of getting an instrument in excellent condition is pretty low.  It&#8217;s kind of like buying a mattress.  Used instruments have had &#8220;intimate&#8221; contact with other people&#8230; and if you&#8217;re getting one from a pawn shop, you have no idea how many other people have been putting their lips or hands on the instrument.</p>
<p>Savvy: I got the D-15 for about $800.  The market price used to be a bit lower several years ago, but higher demand (it&#8217;s a good instrument) and lower supply have caused it to increase a little.</p>
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		<title>By: Saving Advice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saving Advice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition, if you know a bit about what you want, hit pawn shops - can get some great deals on musical instruments there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition, if you know a bit about what you want, hit pawn shops &#8211; can get some great deals on musical instruments there.</p>
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		<title>By: Savvy Steward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savvy Steward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good choice on the D-15, I actually prefer the sound over the more popular DM.  How much did you get it for?

There&#039;s a place down in San Diego called Buffalo Bros where you can buy a guitar and come back anytime and trade up for a new guitar and only pay the difference.  Pretty nice policy that they&#039;ve been doing for 25 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good choice on the D-15, I actually prefer the sound over the more popular DM.  How much did you get it for?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a place down in San Diego called Buffalo Bros where you can buy a guitar and come back anytime and trade up for a new guitar and only pay the difference.  Pretty nice policy that they&#8217;ve been doing for 25 years.</p>
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