Extreme Frugality: Living Out of Your Car

A few months ago, television watchers like myself were bombarded by commercials featuring a young man attempting to “live” out of his car for a few days. However, this guy has been doing it since July 2005. Andy Bussell lives out of his pickup truck, sleeping in the back. He wakes up, showers at the university gym, attends classes, then goes to work at the Apple Store. To keep himself from going insane, he is a yoga-practicing, guitar-playing rock climber. Always pushing him towards insanity are the voluntary living conditions:

What he misses most are a kitchen and a bathroom. To deal with the former, he buys food such as yogurt and fruit in small quantities; for as regards the latter, he takes advantage of public facilities. On occasion, he has resorted to employing an empty Gatorade bottle.

sleep-in-car.jpgAndy decided to lean towards the simpler life when his credit card debt kept piling up. Now that he has been able to save some money, his debt is almost all paid off.

This adventure takes place in California; living in the Northeast, you would need to leave the heat on in order to survive in your car. The frequent gasoline fill-ups would negate any savings you’d manage to keep. [via Consumerist]

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  1. Comment #1 by Clever Dude (reply)
    February 27th, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    I had SERIOUSLY considered doing this when I worked far from home during the week instead of renting the room I was in, but my wife had a fit when I suggested it. Of course, I would have had to buy a different vehicle to do so since I had a sedan.

  2. Comment #2 by Jason (reply)
    February 27th, 2007 at 8:37 pm

    Hats off to him—I don’t think I could do it.

  3. Comment #3 by Marshall Middle (reply)
    February 28th, 2007 at 12:05 am

    I slept in my car one night, and it is NOT comfortable. I’d take a bed over a sleeping bag any day. You have to give this guy some respect because this is not an easy thing to do.

  4. Comment #4 by YeOleImposter @ DogberryPatch (reply)
    February 28th, 2007 at 12:36 am

    If you put a mattress back there, I think it could be quite comfortable. It would be nice if there was a little more headroom.

    Would need to be able to use my laptop. But I guess you can find free wifi somewhere!

  5. Comment #5 by scott (reply)
    February 28th, 2007 at 8:53 am

    I slept on a tank four years, I think I could make it in the back of a truck with a camper shell no less.

  6. Comment #6 by Golbguru (reply)
    February 28th, 2007 at 8:57 am

    I am being very cynical here, but deep down, I think it’s probably extreme publicity more than extreme frugality. Wouldn’t a sensible person find a better way to tackle his debt? or to be frugal.

    Having said that, I admit that this kind of thing must have required extraordinary self-control over certain aspects….and I do appreciate that.

  7. Comment #7 by Peggy (reply)
    February 28th, 2007 at 9:52 am

    I am in total agreement with the “disclaimer” in the last paragraph; this sort of stunt could only be successfully pulled off in a warmer climate where it doesn’t snow or go below freezing for months. I also think he’s getting a lot of help from friends/strangers and also taking advantage of student benefits (free gym access, access to campus cafeteria or cheap food) to pull this off.

  8. Comment #8 by Poorer Than You (reply)
    February 28th, 2007 at 10:10 am

    So that’s the key to film school – live out of your car! But, um, how does he get his film equipment to sets? That’s what I always had to use my car for – there would have been no room for me to live in my car, with all the film equipment!

    Also, this wouldn’t work for me at my Northeast film school – too cold! Of course, I’m not about to add “you can live out of your car!” to the list of “Southern California Film School Advantages.”

  9. Comment #9 by Dus10 (reply)
    February 28th, 2007 at 10:40 am

    He could probably afford to upgrade now. Maybe someone could sign him up for Pimp My Ride. They could hook him up with a stereo that has an LCD display and plays DVD and an XBox, and maybe a refrigerator and a nice swivel chair.

    If he got this setup, he could probably go on like that for a few more years and have a huge nest-egg saved up.

  10. Comment #10 by Saving Advice (reply)
    March 1st, 2007 at 11:04 am

    I lived on a boat docked in SF for awhile, but it was basically like a small apartment (although a lot cheaper…)

  11. Trackback #11 by The Simple Dollar » The Simple Dollar Morning Roundup: Old Man Winter Edition (reply)
    March 2nd, 2007 at 8:31 am
  12. Comment #12 by socal (reply)
    August 16th, 2007 at 2:08 pm

    I am currently living out of my car now. It’s not a truck; it’s a 2-door sports car, with almost everything I own in it. Luckily, I too, live in California, and sleep on the beach at night, when the cops don’t wake me up @ 1 am telling me to leave. When they do, i’m forced to sleep in it. I make it work. Hopefully i’ll get out of this rut by winter. Clifornia or not it gets **** cold out here!

  13. Comment #13 by Jerry (reply)
    August 25th, 2007 at 12:21 am

    i feel ya, ive just recently had to resort to sleeping in my truck,luckily i have a camper. But hopefully i wont have to live this way too long… just have to wait till i ship out to basic training(air force) lucky me,from one to the next.

  14. Comment #14 by Jerry (reply)
    August 25th, 2007 at 12:23 am

    oh ya and as for sleeping at the beach, i guess ill give that a try, not huntington, it cost 10 bucks to park, maybe newport or something, guy who sleeps at the beach what beach do you camp out at?

  15. Comment #15 by socal (reply)
    August 25th, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    I am in Malibu. I recently bought a tent to sleep in. Its so much better than laying my blankets out right on the sand, plus you get more privacy. Odd thing? I may want to continue living here like this. Its great. I ‘volunteer’ at a cat and dog rescue and they pay me every now and then when they can. I am told it does not get THAT cold here- just the water does. I love it out here. Who knew that the result of a complete nervous breakdown could turn out so good?

  16. Comment #16 by shady (reply)
    October 8th, 2007 at 4:30 am

    I am thinking about living of my car. I didnt know you could sleep at the beach, your saying I could get a tent and sleep at Malibu beach every night? Where do you shower?

  17. Comment #17 by kate (reply)
    November 6th, 2007 at 9:46 am

    I have seriously thought about this, just taking a road trip.Obiviously, i live in buffalo,Ny and doing this year round would be suiside.Only problem is i have a small 93 sunbird convertiable.not too much room in the first place.

  18. Comment #18 by Dan (reply)
    November 23rd, 2007 at 11:20 am

    First off.. Cold climate is a no-no? I’ve spent months in remote cold climates living in a tent, no heater, just good gear.
    I think one should get a gym membership if they were to do this, place to shower and get ready for work, plus you’d get really buff.
    I think this is a great idea for people looking to make some changes in their debt quickly.

  19. Comment #19 by Homelessboy14 (reply)
    March 21st, 2008 at 1:42 am

    Hey I’ve been living out of my car off and on for the past year in northern Idaho. I can’t wait for spring to get here since this winter had some cold nights. We had about 2 weeks of “code red” storms. I thought I was going to die I was so cold, Still I am going to miss those nights once the extreme heat of summers on me. Right now, about 30-40 degrees is perfect weather for this homeless kid.

    Honestly, showering has been my biggest problem during the past year. I’ve manage to take one every once in a while but I never thought about joining a Gym until reading about it on the net a couple days ago. And lucky me theres a 24hr Fitness right up the street from were I park.

    I use Staples or Best Buy for Free Wifi. They block Myspace but I can still look things up. I own a little minivan and have been parking at Walmart in the same spot for a 2 months and have never gotten in trouble. There was even a finder bender right in front of my van once and a couple cops were walking around. I didn’t move, but I have sheets over my windows. Perhapes they just don’t care where I’m at or maybe they honestly didn’t notice me. Either way I’m getting pretty bold, I don’t even bother with my curtens some nights.

    I think I’ve pretty much got living in my car down to an art, and I’ve finally got enough saved to get me an apartment, and I’m not sure I want to. I’ve had an apartment before, and its not that useful. If this Gym thing works out, I just might screw the idea of ever leaving my car and just keep improving it. I’ve been thinking of removing my Passanger seat and buying a few car batteries and a inverter. Let one run almost dead and then use my car to recharge it.

  20. Comment #20 by S (reply)
    May 6th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    I’ve been living out of my car for 2 1/2 months..
    It’s ok only for saving money..saved 2,000.00 Minimum ..soon, I can get a penthouse and live plush

  21. Comment #21 by Last (reply)
    June 8th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    I lived in a Mitsubishi Eclipse for 6 months… saved up 20K. Had people try to break in to my car 3 times. Each time they ran off when they realized I was in the car. Still was a great way to save up cash. Two things for those who might try it. 1) you must keep a window cracked if the weather is even remotely warm or your windows will fog up and you could then get hastled. 2) NEVER decide to get a hotel room for the weekend. It seems like a good break, but will lead to more and more hotel stays. You might as well get an appartment. That’s what happened to me.

    Also… I make 50k a year… this isn’t just a poor mans resource…

  22. Comment #22 by Itching to try! (reply)
    June 11th, 2008 at 10:20 am

    I’ve been considering living in my car for a while now. I have a new Honda Fit and the back folds down into a nice space. I lost my job almost 4mos ago and I am having no luck finding a new one! I live in FL and the job market here is terrible. My cash is dwindling and paying over $900/mo on rent and utilities is really eating it up fast. With the warm weather here and all the places to park, gyms to join, and everything I’m not far off. It may be a necessity soon. A lot of troubled times coming this year and possibly next for many people. Good luck to you all!

  23. Comment #23 by Acajudi (reply)
    July 23rd, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    I really love the hints that are on this site. The prices are going up so high, that many people will be living in their cars, and washing up in the store washrooms,or the YMCA. Renters are having a hard time, but there is not a bailout for us.

  24. Comment #24 by Nan of the Van (reply)
    August 2nd, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    I found this website by accident and then thought of a solution for many having financial problems these days. When my husband and I retired we wanted to camp at leisure without a time line or reservations for 2 months out west to recapture our youth. I can no longer camp in a tent since I have back and knee problems and cannot get up and down easily. We had a van. We took out the back seats. I bought 12 flip top crates from Costco and fit them in the space. I bought no-see-um screening from Campmor (It’s very cheap). I cut the screening to cover the side doors and back door leaving enough for hems. I bought hundreds of round magnets at Rag Shop and sewed them into the hems about 3 inches apart. This was how I attached the screening to the van. We had an old 4 inch thick foam mattress I cut to cover the crates in which we kept everything including our photographic equipment. I made 2 sheets to fit the foam mattress. We used no suitcases. We brought 2 pillows each and 2 sleeping bags. I put up heavy cord between the garment hangers to hold the car rechargeable Coleman lantern I used at night for reading. My husband bought pvc pipe which he attached to the roof rack on evenings where rain was forecast. If we had rain we put it over the extended pipes to keep the rain from coming in the doorways. We slept comfortably in Yellowstone down to 19 degrees. We had a blast. We only spent extra money on campgrounds at half rate using the golden senior pass. I am sure these suggestions would help someone to survive a period of time to pay off debt and get a new start. We came home to our residence renewed with the thrill of how little our trip cost us. We will be doing it again soon and save money to go on more expensive journeys to other places in the world ala elder hostel.

  25. Comment #25 by Nan of the Van (reply)
    August 2nd, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    Nan of the Van
    I forgot to mention that we put a very lightweight tarp over the PVC pipe. It looked a little like Chitty Chitty Bank Bang but lots of people came over to talk with us about our rig. I have often wondered whether or not anyone else tried this since 2003 when we took this trip We also took 5 two or 3 week trips to the East Coast and Canada. When we passed through Canadian customs, the fellow asked my husband if he planned to do some plumbing on our visit. He answered no but said we used it as part of our camping shelter.

  26. Comment #26 by Acajudi (reply)
    August 2nd, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Have anyone thought of living with a senior citizen in exchange for helping her/him out? I feel so ashamed to see that money is the reason,that some are living in vans, when others have spare rooms. I think there is a website her, where you can get free lodging for a night or months for helping out. I own a van also, but i WOULD HAVE TOMOVE TO AWARM CLIMATE AND GET A GYM MEMBERSHIP TO KEEP CLEAN . My rent and heating alone is about $1,050 per month, and I still have AOL, phone, food, gas, netflix (entertainment), and charity. I do work 10months for the school system , and I get a pension check. I am doing great, but if I getsick,then my little savings will
    have to supplemrnt my pension. The rich have no idea how we struggle, but some how we make it.
    I thank God for what I have overcome these almost 66 years.

  27. Comment #27 by Nan of the Van (reply)
    August 18th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    I have thought about seniors helping out seniors. At 66 one is still young compared to seniors who need help. A Foundation sponsored by a group of rich people would pair seniors who need a nice home with seniors who need help (usually after 80 or so – maybe even 90) This way old seniors could stay in their homes instead of moving to Assisted Living or Nursing Homes – Good Grief. The foundation would do the background check and a match-up survey. I have known college students who lived with seniors, but problems arose when the student wanted to stay out all night or go away for a weekend.

  28. Comment #28 by Moving West (reply)
    August 20th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    How awesome are some of these comments and helpful suggestions. I am planning on moving to LA in October to (ironically) work for the Los Angeles Homeless Services Coalition. However, I still have monthly bills/debt. The coalition pay will not be enough to cover rent…ergo living out of my Ford escape for at least 6 months. I googled, “How to live out of your car” and this site came up. I love it. Thanks and I look forward to checking back in once the adventure begins. Scott

  29. Comment #29 by Moving West (reply)
    August 20th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    I thoroughly enjoyed your post #19 HomelessBoy…I got a few good tips and a couple of laughs. Thanks

  30. Comment #30 by Moving West (reply)
    August 20th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Oh, yeah….how does one keep their cell phone charged while doing this?

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