Comments on: Best Cars of 2007: Consumer Reports vs. Car and Driver http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/ A premiere personal finance blog, established 2003. Within, Flexo discusses his own experiences with money, and he and other authors comment on a wide range of personal finance topics. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:42:00 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Patrick http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-129990 Patrick Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:15:03 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-129990 I too noticed the complete lack of American cars as well on CR's list. I thought "well that's odd, I know American car firms get a bad rep and all, but none?" Surprising, especially given that the 2001 Ford Focus that my dad owns has never gone wrong, not once in the 150k+ miles he's driven it. Especially given the revamped auto lines. Especially given Ford's new CEO's strive to higher quality. And what about the German cars? I have driven in my friend's G35 and noted that the tire roar is comparable to my Z4 with the top up... and the 335i I drove while my car was in scheduled maintenance was sublime. Guess the reviewer for the G35 was hard of hearing, or didn't care that your eardrums bled while driving. That does it, CR is just a front for the Japanese auto firms and I'll discard anything they say until they get unbiased. I too noticed the complete lack of American cars as well on CR’s list. I thought “well that’s odd, I know American car firms get a bad rep and all, but none?” Surprising, especially given that the 2001 Ford Focus that my dad owns has never gone wrong, not once in the 150k+ miles he’s driven it. Especially given the revamped auto lines. Especially given Ford’s new CEO’s strive to higher quality. And what about the German cars? I have driven in my friend’s G35 and noted that the tire roar is comparable to my Z4 with the top up… and the 335i I drove while my car was in scheduled maintenance was sublime. Guess the reviewer for the G35 was hard of hearing, or didn’t care that your eardrums bled while driving.

That does it, CR is just a front for the Japanese auto firms and I’ll discard anything they say until they get unbiased.

]]> By: Flexo http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-122981 Flexo Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:36:38 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-122981 Russ: You do know that it's not the same people, teams, or departments reviewing kitchen appliances who review cars at CR, right? They have specialists, just like Car & Driver. CR auto reviewers know their stuff, too. In fact, they don't get special versions of cars sent to them like Car & Driver does. They go out and buy the cars just like a consumer would, and the salespeople do not know they work for CR. I've spoken with someone who works for CR in the auto review dept -- a friend of a friend -- and it's amazing what they go through. Russ: You do know that it’s not the same people, teams, or departments reviewing kitchen appliances who review cars at CR, right? They have specialists, just like Car & Driver. CR auto reviewers know their stuff, too. In fact, they don’t get special versions of cars sent to them like Car & Driver does. They go out and buy the cars just like a consumer would, and the salespeople do not know they work for CR. I’ve spoken with someone who works for CR in the auto review dept — a friend of a friend — and it’s amazing what they go through.

]]> By: Russ Ain http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-122979 Russ Ain Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:09:01 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-122979 Being that Consumer Reports reviews almost every type of consumer product, I give much more credence to Car & Driver. They know their stuff. However, I do think Consumer Reports' guide to used cars and their reliability is definitely worthwhile if you're looking to buy a car that's a few years old. Being that Consumer Reports reviews almost every type of consumer product, I give much more credence to Car & Driver. They know their stuff.

However, I do think Consumer Reports’ guide to used cars and their reliability is definitely worthwhile if you’re looking to buy a car that’s a few years old.

]]> By: Maggie http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-118345 Maggie Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:59:18 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-118345 It's good to see that Autoweek magazine is not the only magazine being covered in comparison type surveys. Car and Driver is one of our more popular magazine subscriptions at MagMall. So you are on the right track. It’s good to see that Autoweek magazine is not the only magazine being covered in comparison type surveys. Car and Driver is one of our more popular magazine subscriptions at MagMall. So you are on the right track.

]]> By: Jerry http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-87268 Jerry Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:49:34 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-87268 I feel vehicle reliability is directly related to the maintence performed by the owner. I've had my fair share of domestics and I've never had a problem with any of them - the most recent I sold at 226k miles. I also don't like weighting user experiences since I feel those are biased. When you go into a product expecting it to be a certain way, you're either going to go out of your way to find things wrong, or you'll ignore minor things altogether. I feel vehicle reliability is directly related to the maintence performed by the owner. I’ve had my fair share of domestics and I’ve never had a problem with any of them – the most recent I sold at 226k miles.

I also don’t like weighting user experiences since I feel those are biased. When you go into a product expecting it to be a certain way, you’re either going to go out of your way to find things wrong, or you’ll ignore minor things altogether.

]]> By: Lazy Man and Money http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-87267 Lazy Man and Money Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:18:06 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-87267 The cars they chose really show a lot about the readership. The Consumer Reports is often about quality, while the Car and Driver is a bit more of a flashy, performance car enthuisist site. The cars they chose really show a lot about the readership. The Consumer Reports is often about quality, while the Car and Driver is a bit more of a flashy, performance car enthuisist site.

]]> By: tinyhands http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-87244 tinyhands Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:33:32 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-87244 You don't need to go to another website to confirm what I'll tell you right here: The Miata IS fun to drive. I love mine. You don’t need to go to another website to confirm what I’ll tell you right here: The Miata IS fun to drive. I love mine.

]]> By: Wes http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-87214 Wes Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:08:19 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/03/06/best-cars-of-2007-consumer-reports-vs-car-and-driver/#comment-87214 The Truth About Cars has a good editorial about Consumer Reports' lack of transparency regarding their scoring. In contrast, other magazines explain how each feature is weighted. Link: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=3278 The Truth About Cars has a good editorial about Consumer Reports’ lack of transparency regarding their scoring. In contrast, other magazines explain how each feature is weighted.

Link: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=3278

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