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		<title>By: Calculating your Net Worth</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/06/28/reader-question-are-clothes-a-part-of-net-worth/#comment-116831</link>
		<dc:creator>Calculating your Net Worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ( one of my favorite personal finance blogs ) asked what sounds to be a silly question - Should you include your clothes when determining your net worth?&#160; While it sounds goofy, what is net worth really?&#160; The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ( one of my favorite personal finance blogs ) asked what sounds to be a silly question &#8211; Should you include your clothes when determining your net worth?&nbsp; While it sounds goofy, what is net worth really?&nbsp; The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tinyhands</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/06/28/reader-question-are-clothes-a-part-of-net-worth/#comment-116666</link>
		<dc:creator>tinyhands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. We&#039;ll call &quot;net worth&quot; the difference of assets and liabilities. Let&#039;s call anything else &quot;adjusted net worth&quot;.

A good reason for attempting to make the jump from ANW to NW is that making an inventory of all of your assets can be valuable for insurance purposes as well. If you go room to room (to closet) cataloging everything you own, including serial numbers and estimated market value, you can plug that right into your net worth calculation. Should the unthinkable happen and you have to file an insurance claim, you&#039;ll wish you had that inventory and it&#039;s much harder to remember everything after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. We&#8217;ll call &#8220;net worth&#8221; the difference of assets and liabilities. Let&#8217;s call anything else &#8220;adjusted net worth&#8221;.</p>
<p>A good reason for attempting to make the jump from ANW to NW is that making an inventory of all of your assets can be valuable for insurance purposes as well. If you go room to room (to closet) cataloging everything you own, including serial numbers and estimated market value, you can plug that right into your net worth calculation. Should the unthinkable happen and you have to file an insurance claim, you&#8217;ll wish you had that inventory and it&#8217;s much harder to remember everything after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/06/28/reader-question-are-clothes-a-part-of-net-worth/#comment-116656</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt hit is dead on with his comment.  If you want to correctly value any asset in calculating your net worth, the standard to use is the net proceeds you will realize after the sale.  As for leaving items out of your calculation and still calling the result &quot;net worth&quot; that can be valid.  Never do that with any of your liabilities.  However, I own stuff that I either can&#039;t sell because it is worthless to anyone else, or that isn&#039;t worth enough to count individually.  I estimate the value of those items at $0 and count them.  I might actually get more for them in a yard sale, but it isn&#039;t worth tracking their value.

In the end, net worth is an estimate, not an exact value.  The reason is obvious enough.  You are estimating what you could sell your assets for.  I choose to estimate the value of some of the junk I have around the house at $0.  If I get more for it, assuming I sell it, that&#039;s a bonus.  I&#039;ll value the cash at face value in that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt hit is dead on with his comment.  If you want to correctly value any asset in calculating your net worth, the standard to use is the net proceeds you will realize after the sale.  As for leaving items out of your calculation and still calling the result &#8220;net worth&#8221; that can be valid.  Never do that with any of your liabilities.  However, I own stuff that I either can&#8217;t sell because it is worthless to anyone else, or that isn&#8217;t worth enough to count individually.  I estimate the value of those items at $0 and count them.  I might actually get more for them in a yard sale, but it isn&#8217;t worth tracking their value.</p>
<p>In the end, net worth is an estimate, not an exact value.  The reason is obvious enough.  You are estimating what you could sell your assets for.  I choose to estimate the value of some of the junk I have around the house at $0.  If I get more for it, assuming I sell it, that&#8217;s a bonus.  I&#8217;ll value the cash at face value in that case.</p>
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		<title>By: AllFinancialMatters &#187; Blog Archive &#187; JLP&#8217;s Weekly Roundup (Week of June 24th, 2007)</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllFinancialMatters &#187; Blog Archive &#187; JLP&#8217;s Weekly Roundup (Week of June 24th, 2007)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 05:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are Clothes a Part of Net Worth? - Yes, but hopefully they are a small amount of it. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fivecentnickel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weekly Roundup - 06/29/07...

Well, after two long days, we made it back into town safely. We covered 2900+ miles in 12 days, with the bulk of the driving packed into the first and last two days. We&#8217;re beat, but we had a great time and are glad to be back home. With that said...</description>
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<p>Well, after two long days, we made it back into town safely. We covered 2900+ miles in 12 days, with the bulk of the driving packed into the first and last two days. We&#8217;re beat, but we had a great time and are glad to be back home. With that said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Welcome to the 107th Carnival of Personal Finance &#187; Blogging Away Debt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welcome to the 107th Carnival of Personal Finance &#187; Blogging Away Debt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reader Question: Are Clothes a Part of Net Worth? (626 words) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roundup for week of 24 June 2007 at Mighty Bargain Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/06/28/reader-question-are-clothes-a-part-of-net-worth/#comment-116638</link>
		<dc:creator>Roundup for week of 24 June 2007 at Mighty Bargain Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Consumerism Commentary answers a readerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s question as to whether clothes are a part of one&#8217;s net worth. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mbhunter</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/06/28/reader-question-are-clothes-a-part-of-net-worth/#comment-116516</link>
		<dc:creator>mbhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your clothes are worth what someone else will pay for them.  If it&#039;s eBay, you have to ship them.  If it&#039;s a yard sale, you&#039;d best give people a deal or it goes into your house.  If it&#039;s through a donation, you need to keep careful records and wait for your taxes the following year.

A guess?  Maybe 5% to 10% of retail if they&#039;re used, more if they&#039;re not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your clothes are worth what someone else will pay for them.  If it&#8217;s eBay, you have to ship them.  If it&#8217;s a yard sale, you&#8217;d best give people a deal or it goes into your house.  If it&#8217;s through a donation, you need to keep careful records and wait for your taxes the following year.</p>
<p>A guess?  Maybe 5% to 10% of retail if they&#8217;re used, more if they&#8217;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: My Money Forest</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/06/28/reader-question-are-clothes-a-part-of-net-worth/#comment-116501</link>
		<dc:creator>My Money Forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ever heard - &#8220;Are clothes a part of your net worth?&#8221; Personally, I say no. Go to Consumerism Commentary to learn [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ever heard &#8211; &#8220;Are clothes a part of your net worth?&#8221; Personally, I say no. Go to Consumerism Commentary to learn [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Irwin</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/06/28/reader-question-are-clothes-a-part-of-net-worth/#comment-116492</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Irwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never liked the term Net Worth, Asset Net Worth sounds better since someoneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s value is truly greater than their assets. The calculation should include the value of all assets that you own, less any debts. It is personal preference to take tax out of the calculation for assets such as IRAs, but most planners that I am aware of do not. Some financial planning software has graphs that will track side-by-side tax deferred and taxed assets. For the purpose of a personal comprehensive financial plan, this calculation serves as a good way to track overall wealth growth progress.  I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think it matters a lot if clothing is included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never liked the term Net Worth, Asset Net Worth sounds better since someoneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s value is truly greater than their assets. The calculation should include the value of all assets that you own, less any debts. It is personal preference to take tax out of the calculation for assets such as IRAs, but most planners that I am aware of do not. Some financial planning software has graphs that will track side-by-side tax deferred and taxed assets. For the purpose of a personal comprehensive financial plan, this calculation serves as a good way to track overall wealth growth progress.  I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think it matters a lot if clothing is included.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/06/28/reader-question-are-clothes-a-part-of-net-worth/#comment-116488</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it&#039;s part of your net worth.

However, figuring your true, complete, literal net worth is not a useful exercise since it doesn&#039;t really tell you anything that really helps you meet any of your goals.

I like to figure my net worth -- but I&#039;m only going to make the grossest estimate of the value of my &quot;stuff&quot;.  I&#039;ll be more accurate on house and cars since they are &quot;big ticket&quot; and do have real resale value.

What you really want to focus on is your &quot;investable worth&quot;:  the assets you own that can make you money.  That&#039;s the value that best tells you when you can retire or have otherwise met your financial goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it&#8217;s part of your net worth.</p>
<p>However, figuring your true, complete, literal net worth is not a useful exercise since it doesn&#8217;t really tell you anything that really helps you meet any of your goals.</p>
<p>I like to figure my net worth &#8212; but I&#8217;m only going to make the grossest estimate of the value of my &#8220;stuff&#8221;.  I&#8217;ll be more accurate on house and cars since they are &#8220;big ticket&#8221; and do have real resale value.</p>
<p>What you really want to focus on is your &#8220;investable worth&#8221;:  the assets you own that can make you money.  That&#8217;s the value that best tells you when you can retire or have otherwise met your financial goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fur coats and other special clothing could be included, but regular clothes? I don&#039;t know if they would have much value.

If we had to sell all our clothes right now, it would probably end up in a garage sale fetching a dollar per item. I think &#039;designer&#039; clothes would end up in the same bin as the regular clothes. After you buy them new, do used brand name clothes really have more value over other clothing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fur coats and other special clothing could be included, but regular clothes? I don&#8217;t know if they would have much value.</p>
<p>If we had to sell all our clothes right now, it would probably end up in a garage sale fetching a dollar per item. I think &#8216;designer&#8217; clothes would end up in the same bin as the regular clothes. After you buy them new, do used brand name clothes really have more value over other clothing?</p>
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		<title>By: kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything you can sell should be included.  The key here is that clothes markets are less liquid and involve higher frictional losses than, say, the stock market.  I&#039;d argue you should &quot;value&quot; your house at your net proceeds from selling, not what you ask, what the seller pays, or anything else.  It might stink to think that when you pay $200k for a house you have just reduced your net worth by $12k (sellers fees) but that&#039;s deal you made (assuming you paid market price and could sell it for what you paid).  Clothes are similar in that when you buy a $15 Target shirt (sorry, that&#039;s my type of shirt, you likely pay more) you&#039;ve just reduced your net worth by $10 or so (is $5 fair for a resale value?  Maybe less?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything you can sell should be included.  The key here is that clothes markets are less liquid and involve higher frictional losses than, say, the stock market.  I&#8217;d argue you should &#8220;value&#8221; your house at your net proceeds from selling, not what you ask, what the seller pays, or anything else.  It might stink to think that when you pay $200k for a house you have just reduced your net worth by $12k (sellers fees) but that&#8217;s deal you made (assuming you paid market price and could sell it for what you paid).  Clothes are similar in that when you buy a $15 Target shirt (sorry, that&#8217;s my type of shirt, you likely pay more) you&#8217;ve just reduced your net worth by $10 or so (is $5 fair for a resale value?  Maybe less?).</p>
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		<title>By: J at IHB and HFF</title>
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		<dc:creator>J at IHB and HFF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.  Thank you for reminding people use the term Ã¢â‚¬Å“net worthÃ¢â‚¬Â? only when uncustomized, so that we have a common language. Also, remember to count taxes:

Ã¢â‚¬Å“If liquidating your IRA now would incur a 35% income-tax rate plus 10% penalty, then the accurate net worth of your IRA now is about half of what your account statements say.Ã¢â‚¬Â?Ã¢â‚¬â€?my 6/9 article.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  Thank you for reminding people use the term Ã¢â‚¬Å“net worthÃ¢â‚¬Â? only when uncustomized, so that we have a common language. Also, remember to count taxes:</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“If liquidating your IRA now would incur a 35% income-tax rate plus 10% penalty, then the accurate net worth of your IRA now is about half of what your account statements say.Ã¢â‚¬Â?Ã¢â‚¬â€?my 6/9 article.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think clothes should be included in your net worth. Everything on your balance sheet is what you own and what you owe, if you have a lot of designer clothes or expensive fur coats, they&#039;d be included - the same as jewelry.

As for valuing the clothes, couldn&#039;t you just do like a 2-4 year depreciation on the value from the date bought? That would reflect the reduction in value from year to year to eventually 0, in which case you&#039;d give them to the salvation army or good will anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think clothes should be included in your net worth. Everything on your balance sheet is what you own and what you owe, if you have a lot of designer clothes or expensive fur coats, they&#8217;d be included &#8211; the same as jewelry.</p>
<p>As for valuing the clothes, couldn&#8217;t you just do like a 2-4 year depreciation on the value from the date bought? That would reflect the reduction in value from year to year to eventually 0, in which case you&#8217;d give them to the salvation army or good will anyway.</p>
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