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	<title>Comments on: 5 Signs You are About to Lose Your Job</title>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/10/24/signs-you-are-about-to-lose-your-job/#comment-162120</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tips.  No one ever wants to think &quot;I&#039;m next&quot; but it&#039;s good to have some warning if your number&#039;s up.  There&#039;s no insurance for any job but if you&#039;ve had a bad review, etc, you best be finding another job.  If not, you might end up selling lattes at your local coffee shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tips.  No one ever wants to think &#8220;I&#8217;m next&#8221; but it&#8217;s good to have some warning if your number&#8217;s up.  There&#8217;s no insurance for any job but if you&#8217;ve had a bad review, etc, you best be finding another job.  If not, you might end up selling lattes at your local coffee shop.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO!  IT&#039;S BETTER TO QUIT!  

Getting fired doesn&#039;t automatically qualify you for unemployment.  In fact, you have have to be dismissed &quot;through no fault of your own&quot; in order to get unemployment.  So if your job is eliminated, or your division is relocated, your project is completed, etc. and you are dismissed, then YES, you would qualify for unemployment.  If you are dismissed for poor job performance, a disciplinary reason, or something similar....you are S.O.L.  

That&#039;s why many employers make certain to document (sometimes quietly/secretly) every naughty move you make prior to firing you.  That way if you try to make an unemployment claim (which raises their insurance rates if you&#039;re successful BTW) or try to sue for wrongful dismissal, they have plenty of ammo with which to defend themselves.  

However, if you quit &quot;to avoid being fired&quot; then you still have rights to unemployment in many states.  You just have to claim that you were going to be fired for reasons that were &quot;no fault of your own&quot;.  Then you can tie-up the system while you and your company bicker on the details, all the while you&#039;ll be receiving benefits.  Just make sure your case is solid and you win.  In some states you&#039;ll have to pay back 100% of your unemployment benefits if you ultimately lose such a dispute.   

So if you are confident you&#039;re going to be fired, particularly if you think your company may claim employee misconduct, quit now.  Then immediately file your claim (strike first) with the unemployment office.  That way you&#039;ll likely get full benefits AND avoid having a dismissal on your work record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO!  IT&#8217;S BETTER TO QUIT!  </p>
<p>Getting fired doesn&#8217;t automatically qualify you for unemployment.  In fact, you have have to be dismissed &#8220;through no fault of your own&#8221; in order to get unemployment.  So if your job is eliminated, or your division is relocated, your project is completed, etc. and you are dismissed, then YES, you would qualify for unemployment.  If you are dismissed for poor job performance, a disciplinary reason, or something similar&#8230;.you are S.O.L.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why many employers make certain to document (sometimes quietly/secretly) every naughty move you make prior to firing you.  That way if you try to make an unemployment claim (which raises their insurance rates if you&#8217;re successful BTW) or try to sue for wrongful dismissal, they have plenty of ammo with which to defend themselves.  </p>
<p>However, if you quit &#8220;to avoid being fired&#8221; then you still have rights to unemployment in many states.  You just have to claim that you were going to be fired for reasons that were &#8220;no fault of your own&#8221;.  Then you can tie-up the system while you and your company bicker on the details, all the while you&#8217;ll be receiving benefits.  Just make sure your case is solid and you win.  In some states you&#8217;ll have to pay back 100% of your unemployment benefits if you ultimately lose such a dispute.   </p>
<p>So if you are confident you&#8217;re going to be fired, particularly if you think your company may claim employee misconduct, quit now.  Then immediately file your claim (strike first) with the unemployment office.  That way you&#8217;ll likely get full benefits AND avoid having a dismissal on your work record.</p>
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		<title>By: CB Potts</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right.  It&#039;s better to take the initiative and be prepared for whatever&#039;s going to happen instead of it happening to you.

One thing that I think is becoming more common, especially for people who have been downsized or laid off, is going into business for themselves.  Especially people who have jobs that require a lot of skill: accountants and hr professionals, marketing execs, etc -- sometimes you can make a lot more money and be happier overall if you just go into business for yourself instead of trying to find the exact same kind of job at another firm.

Susan Friedmann talks about this in her book Riches in Niches: How to Make it Big in a Small Market, and I&#039;ll tell you what -- it really gives you a roadmap on how to re-invent and position yourself.  Because let&#039;s be real.  The economy is not great, and people are holding tooth and nail onto the jobs they&#039;ve got -- that means there&#039;s not going to be a lot of openings and the ones that there are aren&#039;t much good or don&#039;t offer much growth potential.  Going it on your own -- Friedmann calls it being a Nichepreneur -- might really be the best option.  But the time to start preparing and thinking about it is BEFORE you get canned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right.  It&#8217;s better to take the initiative and be prepared for whatever&#8217;s going to happen instead of it happening to you.</p>
<p>One thing that I think is becoming more common, especially for people who have been downsized or laid off, is going into business for themselves.  Especially people who have jobs that require a lot of skill: accountants and hr professionals, marketing execs, etc &#8212; sometimes you can make a lot more money and be happier overall if you just go into business for yourself instead of trying to find the exact same kind of job at another firm.</p>
<p>Susan Friedmann talks about this in her book Riches in Niches: How to Make it Big in a Small Market, and I&#8217;ll tell you what &#8212; it really gives you a roadmap on how to re-invent and position yourself.  Because let&#8217;s be real.  The economy is not great, and people are holding tooth and nail onto the jobs they&#8217;ve got &#8212; that means there&#8217;s not going to be a lot of openings and the ones that there are aren&#8217;t much good or don&#8217;t offer much growth potential.  Going it on your own &#8212; Friedmann calls it being a Nichepreneur &#8212; might really be the best option.  But the time to start preparing and thinking about it is BEFORE you get canned!</p>
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		<title>By: laura lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My company is constantly moving people around and tossing them like garbage.  Most of the people they are moving are those with 3 plus years vacation or more.  The manager humiliates, degrades and shows no professionalism towards others.  I have seen handicapped people be treated ruthlessly.  I myself am given so much work and when a mistake is made told I am being written up.  There is little training other then a piece of paper thrown at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company is constantly moving people around and tossing them like garbage.  Most of the people they are moving are those with 3 plus years vacation or more.  The manager humiliates, degrades and shows no professionalism towards others.  I have seen handicapped people be treated ruthlessly.  I myself am given so much work and when a mistake is made told I am being written up.  There is little training other then a piece of paper thrown at you.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Weekly Roundup - Waiting for Windows Edition&#160;&#64;&#160;fivecentnickel.com</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/10/24/signs-you-are-about-to-lose-your-job/#comment-121650</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Weekly Roundup - Waiting for Windows Edition&#160;&#64;&#160;fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Flexo provided some signs that you&#8217;re about to lose your job. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Flexo provided some signs that you&#8217;re about to lose your job. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Free Money Finance</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/10/24/signs-you-are-about-to-lose-your-job/#comment-121480</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Money Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Money Articles for the Week of October 22...

Here are some recent interesting posts from the MoneyBlogNetwork and beyond: Blueprint for Financial Prosperity reminds you to check your asset allocation. No Credit Needed got his van. Get Rich Slowly lists the seven habits of wealth. Consumerism Comm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Money Articles for the Week of October 22&#8230;</p>
<p>Here are some recent interesting posts from the MoneyBlogNetwork and beyond: Blueprint for Financial Prosperity reminds you to check your asset allocation. No Credit Needed got his van. Get Rich Slowly lists the seven habits of wealth. Consumerism Comm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/10/24/signs-you-are-about-to-lose-your-job/#comment-121466</link>
		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For most people, being fired is better, but there are some situations where it is not.  Some bosses I&#039;ve known, when they want to get rid of someone, will simply make working conditions uncomfortable enough without firing the worker.  You could stay and have a horrible experience, or you can take charge of your situation and quit.  

Perhaps you have another job lined up and you&#039;re ready to go... why wait to get fired?

If you&#039;re just going to be looking for a job, you&#039;ll want that unemployment, but if getting that unemployment is making your life miserable, well, you have to decide if it&#039;s worth it to stick around until they eventually fire you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For most people, being fired is better, but there are some situations where it is not.  Some bosses I&#8217;ve known, when they want to get rid of someone, will simply make working conditions uncomfortable enough without firing the worker.  You could stay and have a horrible experience, or you can take charge of your situation and quit.  </p>
<p>Perhaps you have another job lined up and you&#8217;re ready to go&#8230; why wait to get fired?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re just going to be looking for a job, you&#8217;ll want that unemployment, but if getting that unemployment is making your life miserable, well, you have to decide if it&#8217;s worth it to stick around until they eventually fire you.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would one quit? Isn&#039;t being fired better? Then you get unemployment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would one quit? Isn&#8217;t being fired better? Then you get unemployment?</p>
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		<title>By: Job loss: When the writing is on the wall - Smart Spending</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/10/24/signs-you-are-about-to-lose-your-job/#comment-121427</link>
		<dc:creator>Job loss: When the writing is on the wall - Smart Spending</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that you&#039;re no longer needed or wanted on the job. Flexo at Consumerism Commentary lists five signs that you are about to be kicked to the curb by your employer. If you&#039;re getting blamed for tiny [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that you&#8217;re no longer needed or wanted on the job. Flexo at Consumerism Commentary lists five signs that you are about to be kicked to the curb by your employer. If you&#8217;re getting blamed for tiny [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/10/24/signs-you-are-about-to-lose-your-job/#comment-121392</link>
		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are all great suggestions for ways to always be prepared.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are all great suggestions for ways to always be prepared.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Creative Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creative Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jason and Mrs. Micah: resume needs to be up-to-date and you need to jot down your accomplishments as they happen or soon after otherwise you will not remember them all when you&#039;ll need to list them on the resume. It&#039;s a good idea to keep the resume updated and possibly keep it updated online at one of the job search sites like monster.com for two reasons: 1) you never know what opportunities you&#039;re missing out, even if you&#039;re currently satisfied with your job, and 2) its always a good idea to stay connected with some HR people and/or recruiters at companies you&#039;re interested in - this will make your job search much easier and transition much smoother once you decide to leave your current position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jason and Mrs. Micah: resume needs to be up-to-date and you need to jot down your accomplishments as they happen or soon after otherwise you will not remember them all when you&#8217;ll need to list them on the resume. It&#8217;s a good idea to keep the resume updated and possibly keep it updated online at one of the job search sites like monster.com for two reasons: 1) you never know what opportunities you&#8217;re missing out, even if you&#8217;re currently satisfied with your job, and 2) its always a good idea to stay connected with some HR people and/or recruiters at companies you&#8217;re interested in &#8211; this will make your job search much easier and transition much smoother once you decide to leave your current position.</p>
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		<title>By: ~Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>~Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add that you may want to watch out for &#039;out of the ordinary&#039; proclamations about your wonderful-ness. This is what started tipping me off about the layoffs
-larger than usual raises
-Taking you out to lunch for a job well done
-Advice about how you should be the manager of the place</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add that you may want to watch out for &#8216;out of the ordinary&#8217; proclamations about your wonderful-ness. This is what started tipping me off about the layoffs<br />
-larger than usual raises<br />
-Taking you out to lunch for a job well done<br />
-Advice about how you should be the manager of the place</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep an up-to-date text file which documents every new accomplishment or skill. That way when it&#039;s time to refresh the resume or pitch myself to a new job, I have a reference. It&#039;d also be good for performance reviews, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep an up-to-date text file which documents every new accomplishment or skill. That way when it&#8217;s time to refresh the resume or pitch myself to a new job, I have a reference. It&#8217;d also be good for performance reviews, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try to request a letter for your portfilio when you accomplish a project and had great results.  It can also help you when people &#039;forget&#039; your accomplishments when times get tough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try to request a letter for your portfilio when you accomplish a project and had great results.  It can also help you when people &#8216;forget&#8217; your accomplishments when times get tough.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because there is always the chance of losing your job, it makes it critical to maintain an up to date resume.  It sounds like a no brainer, but you often get comfortable in your job and don&#039;t think much about having to find another one.  I make it a point to review my resume every 6 months, especially since I work for a start-up company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because there is always the chance of losing your job, it makes it critical to maintain an up to date resume.  It sounds like a no brainer, but you often get comfortable in your job and don&#8217;t think much about having to find another one.  I make it a point to review my resume every 6 months, especially since I work for a start-up company.</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2007/10/24/signs-you-are-about-to-lose-your-job/#comment-121358</link>
		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James: Thanks, I&#039;ve fixed the title.  There can be severance but not always. There are lot of things to consider before leaving, and finding another job could be one of those -- something for a future post I&#039;m planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James: Thanks, I&#8217;ve fixed the title.  There can be severance but not always. There are lot of things to consider before leaving, and finding another job could be one of those &#8212; something for a future post I&#8217;m planning.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo in title.

Wouldn&#039;t quitting be a bad idea.  If you get laid off, isn&#039;t there normally some severance package?  At least look for another job first before quitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo in title.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t quitting be a bad idea.  If you get laid off, isn&#8217;t there normally some severance package?  At least look for another job first before quitting.</p>
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