Comments on: Your Food Pantry: An Essential Part of Your Emergency Fund http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/ A premiere personal finance blog, established 2003. Within, Flexo discusses his own experiences with money, and he and other authors comment on a wide range of personal finance topics. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:50:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Meg from FruWiki http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-190370 Meg from FruWiki Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:01:23 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-190370 Dana, 6 months worth of food doesn't take up all that much room at all if you're storing basic items like rice, beans, flour, sugar, salt, etc. (instead of canned soup and boxes of mac & cheese). While I don't stockpile food per se, I do tend to buy some things in bulk from Sams like flour and sugar and they last 6 months at least! And I always have plenty of rice and dried beans on hand. In fact, though our fridge and freezer are pretty bare right now, I bet we could last well over a month, maybe two on what we have in our very pitifully small cabinets. Of course, you'd want some more variety, but seasonings don't take up much space and an herb garden is a great help with that if you have any room outside. I wouldn't live off of just beans, rice, and things like home-baked breads by choice, but if things get bad then it you bet I'd be happy to have those things -- along with a good knowledge of edible wild plants, which is something that I've actually enjoyed developing! Dana,

6 months worth of food doesn’t take up all that much room at all if you’re storing basic items like rice, beans, flour, sugar, salt, etc. (instead of canned soup and boxes of mac & cheese). While I don’t stockpile food per se, I do tend to buy some things in bulk from Sams like flour and sugar and they last 6 months at least! And I always have plenty of rice and dried beans on hand. In fact, though our fridge and freezer are pretty bare right now, I bet we could last well over a month, maybe two on what we have in our very pitifully small cabinets.

Of course, you’d want some more variety, but seasonings don’t take up much space and an herb garden is a great help with that if you have any room outside.

I wouldn’t live off of just beans, rice, and things like home-baked breads by choice, but if things get bad then it you bet I’d be happy to have those things — along with a good knowledge of edible wild plants, which is something that I’ve actually enjoyed developing!

]]> By: Dana http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-190363 Dana Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:14:28 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-190363 Hahaha... Six months of food in shortage? I have a frugal tip for those of you with enough room to store that much. Get a smaller house! If you lose your job, your monthly expenses will be smaller to begin with. Hahaha… Six months of food in shortage? I have a frugal tip for those of you with enough room to store that much. Get a smaller house! If you lose your job, your monthly expenses will be smaller to begin with.

]]> By: Sharon http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-161659 Sharon Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:01:32 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-161659 I am currently starting a non profit organization and we plan to teach people how to start their own food storage as there are many jobs being lost and or people not making enough money after they put gas in their tanks. We are taking food and clothing donations too... I am currently starting a non profit organization and we plan to teach people how to start their own food storage as there are many jobs being lost and or people not making enough money after they put gas in their tanks. We are taking food and clothing donations too…

]]> By: NZbird http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-142347 NZbird Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:55:07 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-142347 It hit me this week that food storaqe is a fantastic investment because it enables us to eat tomorrow at today's prices. I guess I never thought of it before because grocery prices haven't risen as steeply or as regularly as they seem to be doing now. It hit me this week that food storaqe is a fantastic investment because it enables us to eat tomorrow at today’s prices. I guess I never thought of it before because grocery prices haven’t risen as steeply or as regularly as they seem to be doing now.

]]> By: Binthere http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-142022 Binthere Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:27:12 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-142022 It would be interesting to know the age bracket of the naysayer. My grandparents lived through the depression and taught me the secrets to successfully raising big families(7kids & 9kids) on small budgets. I'm thankful they did! Twice I have needed that knowledge. Husband #1 lost his job no warning, I was injured in an accident..he couldnt deal..bailed..I had 4 young kids & unable to work..only income a rental unit! By having months of food, paper products, and cleaning supplies stocked up from sales...the little money was used for property tax and utilities! What a lifesaver in a time of a HUGE unexpected setback!! By having my pantry, garden and using other fugal techniques, not only did my kids not realize how broke we were (I tried to keep the "fun" in disfunctional!) they learned the value of giving to charities(toiletries to homeless, school supplies to church collections, all done for free with sales and coupons! I wouldnt wish hard times on anyone but to those who think saving is silly..I've learned its better to say I'm glad I Did than I wish I had! It would be interesting to know the age bracket of the naysayer. My grandparents lived through the depression and taught me the secrets to successfully raising big families(7kids & 9kids) on small budgets. I’m thankful they did! Twice I have needed that knowledge. Husband #1 lost his job no warning, I was injured in an accident..he couldnt deal..bailed..I had 4 young kids & unable to work..only income a rental unit! By having months of food, paper products, and cleaning supplies stocked up from sales…the little money was used for property tax and utilities! What a lifesaver in a time of a HUGE unexpected setback!! By having my pantry, garden and using other fugal techniques, not only did my kids not realize how broke we were (I tried to keep the “fun” in disfunctional!) they learned the value of giving to charities(toiletries to homeless, school supplies to church collections, all done for free with sales and coupons! I wouldnt wish hard times on anyone but to those who think saving is silly..I’ve learned its better to say I’m glad I Did than I wish I had!

]]> By: Gonzo http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-139664 Gonzo Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:09:16 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-139664 "If you are paranoid enough to want 6 months of food stocked up you should build a fall out shelter and start a militia too. Unrest that makes food that scarce in the USA will likely mean the sky is falling and there are bigger problems to prepare for." Considering the number of missing nukes worldwide, a fallout shelter is not a bad idea. Militias are as necessary as they always were. The dollar is collapsing and so is our government and nation. Good luck eating your naivety when times get rough “If you are paranoid enough to want 6 months of food stocked up you should build a fall out shelter and start a militia too. Unrest that makes food that scarce in the USA will likely mean the sky is falling and there are bigger problems to prepare for.”

Considering the number of missing nukes worldwide, a fallout shelter is not a bad idea. Militias are as necessary as they always were. The dollar is collapsing and so is our government and nation.

Good luck eating your naivety when times get rough

]]> By: Becca http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-139458 Becca Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:25:27 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-139458 Our church suggests a one-year food storage, where possible and legal. (In some places, it is illegal to "hoard" food.) But you also have to remember that in an emergency, what would be 6 months or a year for your family, may become 1-2 months if you share with your neighbors, which you probably should in an emergency situation where there is no food available. I hate to bring it up, but think of Hurricane Katrina, where there were lots of refugees everywhere. Some people were just holing up with friends or family farther north, but they were still affected and food ran short. I don't think it is unrealistic to store 1 years worth of food. Especially if we are talking one year's worth of food that we can survive on- not a lot of meats or even veggies at first. In a worst case scenario, you will have no power to run your freezer. So focus on storing things that you can live on- wheat, beans, grains, rice, canned meats and veggies. It won't be very fun, but it will keep you alive. I am not advocating a lot of processed foods. We don't eat a lot of processed food, and we have enough stored to keep us alive for probably 3-4 months. And I think it is important to practice using what you store. We quit buying canned beans a while back, so we are using the dried beans and cycling them through. Also, if you do garden or can garden, you should consider storing seeds from one season to the next. These can be planted and grown when fresh produce may not be available. I am worried by the people who suggest that having a food storage will never be useful, that the US could never get that bad. Do you know about the current wheat situation? There is currently less than a month's worth of wheat supply available. When the next crop comes up, there will be less than 3 months. For the entire world! This is a worldwide shortage, and it isnt just wheat. See this article for more info: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/SuperModels/CouldWeReallyRunOutOfFood.aspx Given that wheat prices are going up up up, and supplies are going down down down, don't you think you should stock up on flour if you bake, wheat if you grind your own flour, corn meal, whatever you like to eat? The foods made from these products will go up in price too. Just a word of caution about being too content and comfortable with the "USA can never fall" attitude. (Not that I think it will, I just like to be prepared if it does.) Our church suggests a one-year food storage, where possible and legal. (In some places, it is illegal to “hoard” food.) But you also have to remember that in an emergency, what would be 6 months or a year for your family, may become 1-2 months if you share with your neighbors, which you probably should in an emergency situation where there is no food available. I hate to bring it up, but think of Hurricane Katrina, where there were lots of refugees everywhere. Some people were just holing up with friends or family farther north, but they were still affected and food ran short.
I don’t think it is unrealistic to store 1 years worth of food. Especially if we are talking one year’s worth of food that we can survive on- not a lot of meats or even veggies at first. In a worst case scenario, you will have no power to run your freezer. So focus on storing things that you can live on- wheat, beans, grains, rice, canned meats and veggies. It won’t be very fun, but it will keep you alive. I am not advocating a lot of processed foods. We don’t eat a lot of processed food, and we have enough stored to keep us alive for probably 3-4 months. And I think it is important to practice using what you store. We quit buying canned beans a while back, so we are using the dried beans and cycling them through.
Also, if you do garden or can garden, you should consider storing seeds from one season to the next. These can be planted and grown when fresh produce may not be available.
I am worried by the people who suggest that having a food storage will never be useful, that the US could never get that bad. Do you know about the current wheat situation? There is currently less than a month’s worth of wheat supply available. When the next crop comes up, there will be less than 3 months. For the entire world! This is a worldwide shortage, and it isnt just wheat. See this article for more info:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/SuperModels/CouldWeReallyRunOutOfFood.aspx
Given that wheat prices are going up up up, and supplies are going down down down, don’t you think you should stock up on flour if you bake, wheat if you grind your own flour, corn meal, whatever you like to eat? The foods made from these products will go up in price too. Just a word of caution about being too content and comfortable with the “USA can never fall” attitude. (Not that I think it will, I just like to be prepared if it does.)

]]> By: Momma http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-139162 Momma Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:12:27 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-139162 There are several websites dedicated to grocery shopping and stocking pantries on the cheap. Grocerygame.com and Couponmom.com are dedicated to this concept. There are several websites dedicated to grocery shopping and stocking pantries on the cheap. Grocerygame.com and Couponmom.com are dedicated to this concept.

]]> By: NZbird http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-139018 NZbird Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:50:22 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-139018 Hi all. Here's what I do. We can't store fresh fruit & veges so those get bought every week. I think it would be handier and cheaper to get a vege garden going. Frozen foods are kept in a small chest freezer. All other foods are kept in my pantry. I know what we use on a regular basis and those are the only things I buy. It isn't an excessive amount, for example in 6 months we would only use around 6 500g packets of pasta so that's what I have on my shelf. We'd only use 1 jar mayonnaise and 1 jar mustard so that's all I store. We do a fair bit of baking so I have 2 large bags flour. Get the idea? My pantry is simply filled with the ingredients we need yet the quantity per item is not huge even for a 6 month period. Boxes of reakfast cereal would probably be the most space consuming thing. I have non-edibles like soap, laundry powder, etc too. I have one rule - only count unopen items are as storage. Initially it was expensive to get the supplies but well worth the effort. Grocery shopping is a matter of topping up and is quick, less stressful, and less expensive. Hi all. Here’s what I do. We can’t store fresh fruit & veges so those get bought every week. I think it would be handier and cheaper to get a vege garden going. Frozen foods are kept in a small chest freezer. All other foods are kept in my pantry. I know what we use on a regular basis and those are the only things I buy. It isn’t an excessive amount, for example in 6 months we would only use around 6 500g packets of pasta so that’s what I have on my shelf. We’d only use 1 jar mayonnaise and 1 jar mustard so that’s all I store. We do a fair bit of baking so I have 2 large bags flour. Get the idea? My pantry is simply filled with the ingredients we need yet the quantity per item is not huge even for a 6 month period.

Boxes of reakfast cereal would probably be the most space consuming thing. I have non-edibles like soap, laundry powder, etc too.

I have one rule – only count unopen items are as storage.

Initially it was expensive to get the supplies but well worth the effort. Grocery shopping is a matter of topping up and is quick, less stressful, and less expensive.

]]> By: Carolina http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138844 Carolina Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:14:35 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138844 Our non profit wants to open a Food pantry and as the Family Support person I am checking the Web for ideas and what we need to do besides the money. Please advise or send info to the above Email Thanking you in advance Carolina Our non profit wants to open a Food pantry and as the Family Support person I am checking the Web for ideas and what we need to do besides the money. Please advise or send info to the above Email Thanking you in advance Carolina

]]> By: Andy http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138496 Andy Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:48:24 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138496 Liz Pulliam Weston published a very good article on the emergency fund pantry back in mid 2007 on msn.com -- it also includes some general information on how long foods last in the freezer and the pantry. <a href="http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/SaveMoney/TheEmergencyFundYouCanEat.aspx">link</a> Liz Pulliam Weston published a very good article on the emergency fund pantry back in mid 2007 on msn.com — it also includes some general information on how long foods last in the freezer and the pantry.

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]]> By: RacerX http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138217 RacerX Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:12:06 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138217 One thing we do now is allocate 10% of our grocery money towards taking advantage of store loss-leaders. Stores generally rotate good sellers at below cost price to get you in to buy everything else. They use the high visibility products as well. So each week we take advantage of them...at multiple stores. This and a few oter tricks have gotten us to save over 33% on our grocery budget vs where we were. If you want other tips they are on the blog as well. One thing we do now is allocate 10% of our grocery money towards taking advantage of store loss-leaders.

Stores generally rotate good sellers at below cost price to get you in to buy everything else. They use the high visibility products as well.

So each week we take advantage of them…at multiple stores. This and a few oter tricks have gotten us to save over 33% on our grocery budget vs where we were. If you want other tips they are on the blog as well.

]]> By: Nicole http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138213 Nicole Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:00:39 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138213 I read this and thought "Wow, if you stock up in this way you're probably anticipating (or currently do) eat a lot of processed foods, since that's mostly what stores so well." But thinking about it a little further, if you have a storage freezer you can store meat, fruits and vegetables. I personally don't have one and won't until I move from an apartment to a house, so it isn't an option... so I mainly have a small extra stock of grains and dried beans. Processed food may be better than nothing if there isn't any food (or very little) available, but it makes me uncomfortable to purchase things that I would use only under very particular circumstances to stock up for "just in case". I read this and thought “Wow, if you stock up in this way you’re probably anticipating (or currently do) eat a lot of processed foods, since that’s mostly what stores so well.” But thinking about it a little further, if you have a storage freezer you can store meat, fruits and vegetables. I personally don’t have one and won’t until I move from an apartment to a house, so it isn’t an option… so I mainly have a small extra stock of grains and dried beans.
Processed food may be better than nothing if there isn’t any food (or very little) available, but it makes me uncomfortable to purchase things that I would use only under very particular circumstances to stock up for “just in case”.

]]> By: No Debt Plan http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138201 No Debt Plan Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:35:58 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138201 Sounds like a good idea to me. 6 months may be a bit much, but on the very off chance that the food supply chain breaks down, or there IS a pandemic, then you'd be all the better. Our food supply situation scares me sometimes. X number of days or weeks for different foods and then... nothing. Sounds like a good idea to me. 6 months may be a bit much, but on the very off chance that the food supply chain breaks down, or there IS a pandemic, then you’d be all the better.

Our food supply situation scares me sometimes. X number of days or weeks for different foods and then… nothing.

]]> By: Meg from All About Appearances http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138188 Meg from All About Appearances Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:23:07 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138188 Hi Dong, The problem with just saving money is that food prices could go soaring due to shortages or just general inflation. I think Flexo makes a really good point about stocking up. I certainly don't have 6 month's worth of food saved up either, but it might be a nice to feel that secure and I'm considering getting some staples in bulk. While I like fresh food, it might not be a bad idea to stock up on dried goods like garbanzo beans, green peas, flour, sugar, yeast, etc. Also, if the sky does start falling, having a garden wouldn't be a bad idea. Hi Dong,

The problem with just saving money is that food prices could go soaring due to shortages or just general inflation.

I think Flexo makes a really good point about stocking up. I certainly don’t have 6 month’s worth of food saved up either, but it might be a nice to feel that secure and I’m considering getting some staples in bulk.

While I like fresh food, it might not be a bad idea to stock up on dried goods like garbanzo beans, green peas, flour, sugar, yeast, etc. Also, if the sky does start falling, having a garden wouldn’t be a bad idea.

]]> By: x http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138178 x Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:08:51 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138178 i do a little bit of this with food, but i also, to a greater degree, do this with personal care items. soaps, razors, shampoo, laundry detergent...more or less things i will without question use but do not truly go bad. the key for me is to only buy them when on sale, with coupons...etc. it is sort of a best of both worlds, i am getting the items cheaper than i normally would and i know i have an amount in 'back up' and do not need to spend on those items in the near future. i do a little bit of this with food, but i also, to a greater degree, do this with personal care items. soaps, razors, shampoo, laundry detergent…more or less things i will without question use but do not truly go bad. the key for me is to only buy them when on sale, with coupons…etc. it is sort of a best of both worlds, i am getting the items cheaper than i normally would and i know i have an amount in ‘back up’ and do not need to spend on those items in the near future.

]]> By: Adfecto http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138161 Adfecto Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:02:45 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138161 Some of this makes sense but all of that space and up front expense has a long term cost associated with it. Keep the essentials like peanut butter, rice, beans, and pasta but that's about it. I'd have enough for 2-3 months not 6+. If you are paranoid enough to want 6 months of food stocked up you should build a fall out shelter and start a militia too. Unrest that makes food that scarce in the USA will likely mean the sky is falling and there are bigger problems to prepare for. On that note, I'm also selling plans for a special tin foil hat that keeps the the government and aliens from being able to read your mind. Shoot me an email if you want to buy a copy for $11.99. Some of this makes sense but all of that space and up front expense has a long term cost associated with it. Keep the essentials like peanut butter, rice, beans, and pasta but that’s about it. I’d have enough for 2-3 months not 6+.

If you are paranoid enough to want 6 months of food stocked up you should build a fall out shelter and start a militia too. Unrest that makes food that scarce in the USA will likely mean the sky is falling and there are bigger problems to prepare for. On that note, I’m also selling plans for a special tin foil hat that keeps the the government and aliens from being able to read your mind. Shoot me an email if you want to buy a copy for $11.99.

]]> By: Rich http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138137 Rich Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:39:26 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138137 I started doing this a few months ago and now have maybe a couple of months set aside. The trick to doing this is to only stock up on foods that you eat on a regular basis. Canned goods, dry pasta, rice, beans, cereals... all of these have a long shelf life, and as you regularly use them, you just rotate and replace. I started doing this a few months ago and now have maybe a couple of months set aside. The trick to doing this is to only stock up on foods that you eat on a regular basis. Canned goods, dry pasta, rice, beans, cereals… all of these have a long shelf life, and as you regularly use them, you just rotate and replace.

]]> By: dong http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138129 dong Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:47:29 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/02/27/your-food-pantry-an-essential-part-of-your-emergency-fund/#comment-138129 Not sure I'd stock 6 month supply of food. I mean shouldn't savings that can go towards buying food be just as good if not better? No need to worry about it going bad or taking up space that way too. Besides I guess I like my food fresh.... Not sure I’d stock 6 month supply of food. I mean shouldn’t savings that can go towards buying food be just as good if not better? No need to worry about it going bad or taking up space that way too. Besides I guess I like my food fresh….

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