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	<title>Comments on: Using Fame to Promote an Issue: A Reponsibility or Uncouth?</title>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they should all just shut up. I&#039;ve never listened to any of them and find it irritating that they think they have the right to force their views on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they should all just shut up. I&#8217;ve never listened to any of them and find it irritating that they think they have the right to force their views on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/05/13/using-fame-to-promote-an-issue-a-reponsibility-or-uncouth/#comment-149753</link>
		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob: I don&#039;t think that analogy holds up.  You have a contract to provide engineering services in return for $30 an hour.  When you buy a concert ticket, the performer is not held to any contract with you.  In return for your $60, the show promoter is guaranteeing you a seat from 8:00 pm to 11:00 pm (or whatever)... and that&#039;s it.  The performer&#039;s contract is with the show promoter and the promoter&#039;s contract is with the venue... 

But you have expectations for what your concert experience should be, and performers shouldn&#039;t stray too far from what their ticket holders want unless they&#039;re trying to redefine their image and find a new audience.

So, you&#039;re not paying a singer $60 to sing, you&#039;re payng a show promoter $60 to let you sit in your seat for 3 hours.

What about at awards shows?  If you watch on television, you&#039;re not paying anyone anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob: I don&#8217;t think that analogy holds up.  You have a contract to provide engineering services in return for $30 an hour.  When you buy a concert ticket, the performer is not held to any contract with you.  In return for your $60, the show promoter is guaranteeing you a seat from 8:00 pm to 11:00 pm (or whatever)&#8230; and that&#8217;s it.  The performer&#8217;s contract is with the show promoter and the promoter&#8217;s contract is with the venue&#8230; </p>
<p>But you have expectations for what your concert experience should be, and performers shouldn&#8217;t stray too far from what their ticket holders want unless they&#8217;re trying to redefine their image and find a new audience.</p>
<p>So, you&#8217;re not paying a singer $60 to sing, you&#8217;re payng a show promoter $60 to let you sit in your seat for 3 hours.</p>
<p>What about at awards shows?  If you watch on television, you&#8217;re not paying anyone anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/05/13/using-fame-to-promote-an-issue-a-reponsibility-or-uncouth/#comment-149748</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian: &quot;If they want to talk about their political beliefs that annoy you, too bad. You aren’t “forced” to be there, you paid them $60 to be there and you can leave at any time.&quot;

I disagree.  If I paid $60 for a ticket to hear them sing, they should be singing.  Anything else on their part is dishonest.  If I paid $60 for a ticket to hear their political views, that&#039;s a different matter.

If my company pays me $30 for an hour of engineering, I had darn well better be engineering.  They&#039;re not paying me to state my political views.  If I did, I would quickly be finding myself another job.  The same thing should apply to an entertainer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian: &#8220;If they want to talk about their political beliefs that annoy you, too bad. You aren’t “forced” to be there, you paid them $60 to be there and you can leave at any time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree.  If I paid $60 for a ticket to hear them sing, they should be singing.  Anything else on their part is dishonest.  If I paid $60 for a ticket to hear their political views, that&#8217;s a different matter.</p>
<p>If my company pays me $30 for an hour of engineering, I had darn well better be engineering.  They&#8217;re not paying me to state my political views.  If I did, I would quickly be finding myself another job.  The same thing should apply to an entertainer.</p>
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		<title>By: fathersez</title>
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		<dc:creator>fathersez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be a time and place for everything. 

If we are at a function and the someone who is giving a speech goes off topic and starts blabbing about his/her favourite issue...then we are entitled to think they are uncouth.

If the function is about the subject concerned, and the famous guy/gal talks their heads off....good for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be a time and place for everything. </p>
<p>If we are at a function and the someone who is giving a speech goes off topic and starts blabbing about his/her favourite issue&#8230;then we are entitled to think they are uncouth.</p>
<p>If the function is about the subject concerned, and the famous guy/gal talks their heads off&#8230;.good for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Brian&#039;s point. Even in kindergarten you learn that some people are just crazy and you don&#039;t bother listening to them. I think Charlton Heston was a bit off his rocker since....well since ever. So I just ignore him. If people don&#039;t like Michael Moore (I really have no opinion about him) then they can do the same.

If a celebrity can fit their issue into the 30 second speech at the Oscars (without going over) then fine. If they want to make a website or youtube video, ok. They&#039;re the same as other people...who also have the right to try to promote their opinions.

After all, people aren&#039;t just what they do for a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Brian&#8217;s point. Even in kindergarten you learn that some people are just crazy and you don&#8217;t bother listening to them. I think Charlton Heston was a bit off his rocker since&#8230;.well since ever. So I just ignore him. If people don&#8217;t like Michael Moore (I really have no opinion about him) then they can do the same.</p>
<p>If a celebrity can fit their issue into the 30 second speech at the Oscars (without going over) then fine. If they want to make a website or youtube video, ok. They&#8217;re the same as other people&#8230;who also have the right to try to promote their opinions.</p>
<p>After all, people aren&#8217;t just what they do for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see it as a responsibility, but it is an exercise of their freedom of speech if they choose to do so.
Castocreations, if you paid to see The Dixie Chicks perform, and if they don&#039;t play your favorite song, too bad. If they decide to skip all their hits and spend 115 minutes on a freeform improvised jazz cello solo that you hate, too bad. If they want to talk about their political beliefs that annoy you, too bad. You aren&#039;t &quot;forced&quot; to be there, you paid them $60 to be there and you can leave at any time. 

This goes both ways. The Dixie Chicks (who I&#039;m assuming you&#039;re referencing) took a risk by vocally stating opinions that went against their typical fanbase. People could&#039;ve gotten angry and not paid to see them anymore, which some did...but they went on to win a bunch of CMT awards, Grammys, and still sell tickets, so their risk paid off. They challenged the stereotype that being patriotic meant blindly following your President, and succeeded.

&quot;Celebrities&quot; get that way because we buy their music, millions of housewives buy US Weekly, and millions of us will never forget the first time we saw &quot;Big&quot;, &quot;Saving Private Ryan&quot;, &quot;Band of Brothers&quot;, or &quot;Charlie Wilson&#039;s War&quot;. If somebody &#039;abuses&#039; their celebrity status while exercising their constitutional right, ignore them. Change the channel. Don&#039;t go to their concert. Use *your* freedom to avoid them, and everyone stays happy.

I ignore Bill O&#039;Reilly because I think he&#039;s a d***he. I ignore Paris Hilton because I think she&#039;s useless. I ignore Tom Cruise because he&#039;s...well, he&#039;s crazy, and he&#039;s Tom Cruise. One of the most important lessons I learned in kindergarten is that people can only annoy you if you pay attention to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see it as a responsibility, but it is an exercise of their freedom of speech if they choose to do so.<br />
Castocreations, if you paid to see The Dixie Chicks perform, and if they don&#8217;t play your favorite song, too bad. If they decide to skip all their hits and spend 115 minutes on a freeform improvised jazz cello solo that you hate, too bad. If they want to talk about their political beliefs that annoy you, too bad. You aren&#8217;t &#8220;forced&#8221; to be there, you paid them $60 to be there and you can leave at any time. </p>
<p>This goes both ways. The Dixie Chicks (who I&#8217;m assuming you&#8217;re referencing) took a risk by vocally stating opinions that went against their typical fanbase. People could&#8217;ve gotten angry and not paid to see them anymore, which some did&#8230;but they went on to win a bunch of CMT awards, Grammys, and still sell tickets, so their risk paid off. They challenged the stereotype that being patriotic meant blindly following your President, and succeeded.</p>
<p>&#8220;Celebrities&#8221; get that way because we buy their music, millions of housewives buy US Weekly, and millions of us will never forget the first time we saw &#8220;Big&#8221;, &#8220;Saving Private Ryan&#8221;, &#8220;Band of Brothers&#8221;, or &#8220;Charlie Wilson&#8217;s War&#8221;. If somebody &#8216;abuses&#8217; their celebrity status while exercising their constitutional right, ignore them. Change the channel. Don&#8217;t go to their concert. Use *your* freedom to avoid them, and everyone stays happy.</p>
<p>I ignore Bill O&#8217;Reilly because I think he&#8217;s a d***he. I ignore Paris Hilton because I think she&#8217;s useless. I ignore Tom Cruise because he&#8217;s&#8230;well, he&#8217;s crazy, and he&#8217;s Tom Cruise. One of the most important lessons I learned in kindergarten is that people can only annoy you if you pay attention to them.</p>
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		<title>By: castocreations</title>
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		<dc:creator>castocreations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or do you believe only the celebrities who agree with you should have the opportunity to speak out for issues that they find important?&quot;

Well, duh. LOL :) 

I think most celebrities, actors, and singers are clueless about the &#039;real&#039; world and I could care less what they say. Actions speak louder than words. One person who has actually &quot;earned&quot; the right to her opinion having meaning is Angelina Jolie. Michael Moore is just a blowhard idiot.

As for presidential nominations. I could care less who Tom Hanks wants. His life is so foreign from mine that he could live on another planet. So his &quot;needs&quot; don&#039;t really jive with what I want in a president.

I don&#039;t really care what celebrities say as long as they do it at the right time. If I pay to attend a music concert I don&#039;t want to be forced to listen to their political views. Shut Up and Sing (as Laura Ingrim&#039;s book so eloquently states).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or do you believe only the celebrities who agree with you should have the opportunity to speak out for issues that they find important?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, duh. LOL :) </p>
<p>I think most celebrities, actors, and singers are clueless about the &#8216;real&#8217; world and I could care less what they say. Actions speak louder than words. One person who has actually &#8220;earned&#8221; the right to her opinion having meaning is Angelina Jolie. Michael Moore is just a blowhard idiot.</p>
<p>As for presidential nominations. I could care less who Tom Hanks wants. His life is so foreign from mine that he could live on another planet. So his &#8220;needs&#8221; don&#8217;t really jive with what I want in a president.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really care what celebrities say as long as they do it at the right time. If I pay to attend a music concert I don&#8217;t want to be forced to listen to their political views. Shut Up and Sing (as Laura Ingrim&#8217;s book so eloquently states).</p>
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