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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Not Just About the $400 Tax Credit</title>
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		<title>By: Stonytony</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/02/13/its-not-just-about-the-400-tax-credit/#comment-188421</link>
		<dc:creator>Stonytony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, i am not proud of anyone who voted in favor of this bill.   I believe it is a federal power grab, buys the votes of lower income people by giving handouts (a refundable tax credit is CHARITY THAT IS GOVERNMENT DIRECTED, infringes on personal rights (see the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments), intrudes into STATES RIGHTS (see the 9th and 10th amendments) and leaves future generations with an enormous TAX BILL THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PAID!  yeah, that&#039;s somthng to be proud of.  and CHANGE we can believe in.  the iraq war was way too expensive in american lives but as dollars go, it was pretty cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, i am not proud of anyone who voted in favor of this bill.   I believe it is a federal power grab, buys the votes of lower income people by giving handouts (a refundable tax credit is CHARITY THAT IS GOVERNMENT DIRECTED, infringes on personal rights (see the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments), intrudes into STATES RIGHTS (see the 9th and 10th amendments) and leaves future generations with an enormous TAX BILL THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PAID!  yeah, that&#8217;s somthng to be proud of.  and CHANGE we can believe in.  the iraq war was way too expensive in american lives but as dollars go, it was pretty cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/02/13/its-not-just-about-the-400-tax-credit/#comment-188358</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but I’m personally proud of our Congress for managing a workable compromise in such a short amount of time.&quot;

Proud is certainly not the word I would use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but I’m personally proud of our Congress for managing a workable compromise in such a short amount of time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Proud is certainly not the word I would use.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but I’m personally proud of our Congress for managing a workable compromise in such a short amount of time.&quot;

I&#039;m going to have to contend this point here Smithee. I don&#039;t think scratching the back of 3 senators in order to get the bill passed should be considered a great accomplishment. They compromised alright - they took a myopic short term approach in order to secure selfish agendas within this bill. The other side of the aisle was essentially shut out of the process. At no point was their alternative bill discussed (shot down in house). The bill signing was RUSHED, breaking several promises of the HOPE and CHANGE campaign, including posting of the bills online for the public to see, waiting 48 hours for a vote, etc., etc. I mean, they haven&#039;t even read the bill and it has PENCILED in items. The only real compromise was between the DEMOCRATIC controlled House and DEMOCRATIC controlled Senate. I&#039;ll spare the absolute power quote.

Sure, there are a lot of items in this bill that CAN be helpful for our country, but selling it as a cure for the recession is pure crap. This bill is a democratic elixir - a snake oil if you will, filled with expensive and expansive gov&#039;t programs that will flip the US population into consumers rather than producers and KILL the very fabric of our country. What motivation will the voters have to go out and achieve when everything is handed to them? STIMULUS puts money in the pockets of producers and workers immediately. If you want to change lightbulbs and update doorbells, put that in a separate bill.

Not to mention that this is all BORROWED money. Who is going to pay it back? Certainly not those who are getting all these program benefits. it&#039;s going to be our children and grandchildren. When I say &quot;our&quot; I mean those that pay taxes. The TRILLIONS of dollars this one single bill will kill the US Dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but I’m personally proud of our Congress for managing a workable compromise in such a short amount of time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to have to contend this point here Smithee. I don&#8217;t think scratching the back of 3 senators in order to get the bill passed should be considered a great accomplishment. They compromised alright &#8211; they took a myopic short term approach in order to secure selfish agendas within this bill. The other side of the aisle was essentially shut out of the process. At no point was their alternative bill discussed (shot down in house). The bill signing was RUSHED, breaking several promises of the HOPE and CHANGE campaign, including posting of the bills online for the public to see, waiting 48 hours for a vote, etc., etc. I mean, they haven&#8217;t even read the bill and it has PENCILED in items. The only real compromise was between the DEMOCRATIC controlled House and DEMOCRATIC controlled Senate. I&#8217;ll spare the absolute power quote.</p>
<p>Sure, there are a lot of items in this bill that CAN be helpful for our country, but selling it as a cure for the recession is pure crap. This bill is a democratic elixir &#8211; a snake oil if you will, filled with expensive and expansive gov&#8217;t programs that will flip the US population into consumers rather than producers and KILL the very fabric of our country. What motivation will the voters have to go out and achieve when everything is handed to them? STIMULUS puts money in the pockets of producers and workers immediately. If you want to change lightbulbs and update doorbells, put that in a separate bill.</p>
<p>Not to mention that this is all BORROWED money. Who is going to pay it back? Certainly not those who are getting all these program benefits. it&#8217;s going to be our children and grandchildren. When I say &#8220;our&#8221; I mean those that pay taxes. The TRILLIONS of dollars this one single bill will kill the US Dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/02/13/its-not-just-about-the-400-tax-credit/#comment-188302</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another place to see where stimulus funds *could* be spent is http://www.stimuluswatch.org. Stimulus watch does NOT list where funds will be spent, but lists candidates for funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another place to see where stimulus funds *could* be spent is <a href="http://www.stimuluswatch.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.stimuluswatch.org</a>. Stimulus watch does NOT list where funds will be spent, but lists candidates for funding.</p>
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