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> <channel><title>Comments on: New Proposed Regulations for Credit Cards</title> <atom:link href="http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/</link> <description>A premiere personal finance blog, established 2003. Within, Flexo discusses his own experiences with money, and he and other authors comment on a wide range of personal finance topics.</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:34:43 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: SJ</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193047</link> <dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193047</guid> <description>Again, where do you draw the line? Also, are you saying it&#039;s okay to market to adults but not little kids? Should we do that with credit cards too? Only those who are fiscally responsible should be marketed to?Tobacco laws are already in place (I do believe?) , but not alcohol laws lol. (This is my personal observations based on tv watching =) )
How do you decide what foods are &quot;too fatty&quot;? Red meat is bad for you after all. For that matter, by your logic should marijuana and other drugs be made legal but not marketed? (Actually I&#039;m still confused why smoking is legal but marijuana and what not aren&#039;t. Legacy I guess?&quot;What about tv? I think I love hulu&#039;s commercial; they acknowledge that excessive tv will turn your brain to mush and advertise accordingly.Finally, who decides the line?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, where do you draw the line? Also, are you saying it&#8217;s okay to market to adults but not little kids? Should we do that with credit cards too? Only those who are fiscally responsible should be marketed to?</p><p>Tobacco laws are already in place (I do believe?) , but not alcohol laws lol. (This is my personal observations based on tv watching =) )<br
/> How do you decide what foods are &#8220;too fatty&#8221;? Red meat is bad for you after all. For that matter, by your logic should marijuana and other drugs be made legal but not marketed? (Actually I&#8217;m still confused why smoking is legal but marijuana and what not aren&#8217;t. Legacy I guess?&#8221;</p><p>What about tv? I think I love hulu&#8217;s commercial; they acknowledge that excessive tv will turn your brain to mush and advertise accordingly.</p><p>Finally, who decides the line?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Grampa Ken</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193042</link> <dc:creator>Grampa Ken</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:48:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193042</guid> <description>&quot;Where do you draw the line?&quot;I would allow most of these things. I would not allow marketing of most of them. Tobacco causes cancer, why would you allow commercials directed to youth as portraying smoking as a cool thing to do when the results can be so cruel.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where do you draw the line?&#8221;</p><p>I would allow most of these things. I would not allow marketing of most of them. Tobacco causes cancer, why would you allow commercials directed to youth as portraying smoking as a cool thing to do when the results can be so cruel.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SJ</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193041</link> <dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:31:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193041</guid> <description>@ Grampa KenWhere do you draw the line? Smoking is harmful. So is alcohol. Twinkies are gross. Guns can be harmful. TV is bad for time management. Paper kills trees =(. Cars crash. Etc. etc...My wasting lots of time on internet is prolly harmful to me... oh no&#039;S~~~</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Grampa Ken</p><p>Where do you draw the line? Smoking is harmful. So is alcohol. Twinkies are gross. Guns can be harmful. TV is bad for time management. Paper kills trees =(. Cars crash. Etc. etc&#8230;</p><p>My wasting lots of time on internet is prolly harmful to me&#8230; oh no&#8217;S~~~</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Grampa Ken</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193038</link> <dc:creator>Grampa Ken</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:30:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193038</guid> <description>“It would be nice if all businesses were prohibited from the excessive marketing of products or services that are unhealthy or harmful.&quot;Actually I feel stronger about the matter. Businesses should be prohibited from selling products or services that are unhealthy or harmful. They do not need so much freedom to cause harm. This is not giving too much power to the state it&#039;s removing some from the corporations who can generate profits ruthlessly.Permitting dishonest promotions, false labeling, small print, hidden charges, bully marketing, gouging, marketing unhealthy foods, targeting kids and such are all bad. The consumer is not the enemy! I suppose many people making money in this environment might like the freedom little regulation allows.And regulations after the fact are a bit late.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“It would be nice if all businesses were prohibited from the excessive marketing of products or services that are unhealthy or harmful.&#8221;</p><p>Actually I feel stronger about the matter. Businesses should be prohibited from selling products or services that are unhealthy or harmful. They do not need so much freedom to cause harm. This is not giving too much power to the state it&#8217;s removing some from the corporations who can generate profits ruthlessly.</p><p>Permitting dishonest promotions, false labeling, small print, hidden charges, bully marketing, gouging, marketing unhealthy foods, targeting kids and such are all bad. The consumer is not the enemy! I suppose many people making money in this environment might like the freedom little regulation allows.</p><p>And regulations after the fact are a bit late.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kitty</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193028</link> <dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:43:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193028</guid> <description>#1. is horrible. It will hurt the economy and it will restrict credit. No company should be required to operate at a loss and since credit card losses are mounting, restricting the ability to raise rates would just cause companies to reduce lending, to reduce benefits for those of us who pay in full. It will really hurt the economy.&quot;It would be nice if all businesses were prohibited from the excessive marketing of products or services that are unhealthy or harmful. Less persuasion would result in less problems.&quot;
Do you really want to give this much power to the government? Do you want to live in a nanny state? What if their view of what is harmful to you is different from yours? Besides, everything can be harmful. If you buy an expensive trip that you cannot afford, buying this trip is harmful to you too.Why do Americans have this &quot;victim&quot; mentality? It was not me who overspent, it was these bad bad banks who made me... Have you not learned the difference between credit and spending money? As humans we have free will. We should be able to exercise it. Nobody forced you or anybody else to even get a credit card. Nor has anybody forced you to use credit to buy something you cannot afford. How about some personal responsibility?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1. is horrible. It will hurt the economy and it will restrict credit. No company should be required to operate at a loss and since credit card losses are mounting, restricting the ability to raise rates would just cause companies to reduce lending, to reduce benefits for those of us who pay in full. It will really hurt the economy.</p><p>&#8220;It would be nice if all businesses were prohibited from the excessive marketing of products or services that are unhealthy or harmful. Less persuasion would result in less problems.&#8221;<br
/> Do you really want to give this much power to the government? Do you want to live in a nanny state? What if their view of what is harmful to you is different from yours? Besides, everything can be harmful. If you buy an expensive trip that you cannot afford, buying this trip is harmful to you too.</p><p>Why do Americans have this &#8220;victim&#8221; mentality? It was not me who overspent, it was these bad bad banks who made me&#8230; Have you not learned the difference between credit and spending money? As humans we have free will. We should be able to exercise it. Nobody forced you or anybody else to even get a credit card. Nor has anybody forced you to use credit to buy something you cannot afford. How about some personal responsibility?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kitty</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193027</link> <dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:32:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193027</guid> <description>Did you call them and asked if your card has a grace period? If their answer was no, you could have simply switched to the card that has a grace period - most of them do. Also, have you EVER not pay a balance in full? But with standard grace period your previous month&#039; balance was paid in full too in order for the grace period to work.I use American Express Blue cash, and I&#039;ve never paid a penny more than the amount of my purchases. My mother used Bank of America and she&#039;s never paid interest either. We know how to count so we&#039;d have known if they charged us any more than the sum of purchases. American Express has a page about grace periods. Here is the explanation from American Express: http://home3.americanexpress.com/corp/consumerinfo/grace.asp</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you call them and asked if your card has a grace period? If their answer was no, you could have simply switched to the card that has a grace period &#8211; most of them do. Also, have you EVER not pay a balance in full? But with standard grace period your previous month&#8217; balance was paid in full too in order for the grace period to work.</p><p>I use American Express Blue cash, and I&#8217;ve never paid a penny more than the amount of my purchases. My mother used Bank of America and she&#8217;s never paid interest either. We know how to count so we&#8217;d have known if they charged us any more than the sum of purchases. American Express has a page about grace periods. Here is the explanation from American Express: <a
href="http://home3.americanexpress.com/corp/consumerinfo/grace.asp" rel="nofollow">http://home3.americanexpress.com/corp/consumerinfo/grace.asp</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193016</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193016</guid> <description>Not always the case.  I pay my card in full every month, but about a year ago both BofA and Amex started using the &quot;average daily balance&quot; (#4) to assess me interest the following month.  Of course, that&#039;s still in my control as I don&#039;t use those cards anymore.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not always the case.  I pay my card in full every month, but about a year ago both BofA and Amex started using the &#8220;average daily balance&#8221; (#4) to assess me interest the following month.  Of course, that&#8217;s still in my control as I don&#8217;t use those cards anymore.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Grampa Ken</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193013</link> <dc:creator>Grampa Ken</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:30:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193013</guid> <description>It would be nice if all businesses were prohibited from the excessive marketing of products or services that are unhealthy or harmful. Less persuasion would result in less problems.There are too many companies putting too much effort into marketing credit. The credit rates charged are excessively high at a time when investment interest returns are historically low. There could be the argument that their costs are too high but that&#039;s because they market them too heavily and there are too many defaults. So many of these defaults are by people who could not wisely afford the purchases but were persuaded to do so on credit.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if all businesses were prohibited from the excessive marketing of products or services that are unhealthy or harmful. Less persuasion would result in less problems.</p><p>There are too many companies putting too much effort into marketing credit. The credit rates charged are excessively high at a time when investment interest returns are historically low. There could be the argument that their costs are too high but that&#8217;s because they market them too heavily and there are too many defaults. So many of these defaults are by people who could not wisely afford the purchases but were persuaded to do so on credit.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SJ</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193007</link> <dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:14:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193007</guid> <description>Well, does anyone have a idea of present laws?I&#039;ve always gotten notifications from my CC when things were changing, rates, limit, etc. And if a CC company was pure evil, vote with your dollar and let them become unprofitable.  If you don&#039;t, well then ... who&#039;s fault is that?More annoying to me is focus and obsessing over credit scores. I think that is actually something the govt needs to do; make it non-profit.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, does anyone have a idea of present laws?</p><p>I&#8217;ve always gotten notifications from my CC when things were changing, rates, limit, etc. And if a CC company was pure evil, vote with your dollar and let them become unprofitable.  If you don&#8217;t, well then &#8230; who&#8217;s fault is that?</p><p>More annoying to me is focus and obsessing over credit scores. I think that is actually something the govt needs to do; make it non-profit.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: UH2L</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-193003</link> <dc:creator>UH2L</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-193003</guid> <description>These new laws make so much sense it&#039;s scary that they weren&#039;t in existence before.  And I totally disagree with Andy.  It&#039;s not about what we should and shouldn&#039;t be doing to manage our own credit cards, but it&#039;s about what&#039;s fair to the customer given that a credit card is basically a contract.  The companies are currently allowed to change contracts mid-stream which isn&#039;t true in any other type of loan.  They get away with it because nobody really can understand everything in the fine print of the credit terms.  I really think the lobbying by the banks and credit card companies led to them being allowed to practice such underhanded ways of operating their businesses.  I always say that the Republicans stand for corporate freedom and the Democrats stand for personal freedom.  This further supports my theory.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These new laws make so much sense it&#8217;s scary that they weren&#8217;t in existence before.  And I totally disagree with Andy.  It&#8217;s not about what we should and shouldn&#8217;t be doing to manage our own credit cards, but it&#8217;s about what&#8217;s fair to the customer given that a credit card is basically a contract.  The companies are currently allowed to change contracts mid-stream which isn&#8217;t true in any other type of loan.  They get away with it because nobody really can understand everything in the fine print of the credit terms.  I really think the lobbying by the banks and credit card companies led to them being allowed to practice such underhanded ways of operating their businesses.  I always say that the Republicans stand for corporate freedom and the Democrats stand for personal freedom.  This further supports my theory.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Flexo</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-192998</link> <dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:57:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-192998</guid> <description>It&#039;s understandable for people who have used credit cards for decades to have grown accustomed to credit card companies automatically rejecting transactions that put someone over their limit; it&#039;s only relatively recently that the companies allow these transactions to go through, resulting in a fee.  Everyone should do their best manage their own credit of course, but there are always situations where even the diligent can be trapped.  Some credit cards drop credit limits without warning because there is no requirement to warn a consumer of this change; in fact, I&#039;ve heard of at least one case where a purchase was being made within the credit limit, but the company decided to drop the limit at the same time, resulting in a fee.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s understandable for people who have used credit cards for decades to have grown accustomed to credit card companies automatically rejecting transactions that put someone over their limit; it&#8217;s only relatively recently that the companies allow these transactions to go through, resulting in a fee.  Everyone should do their best manage their own credit of course, but there are always situations where even the diligent can be trapped.  Some credit cards drop credit limits without warning because there is no requirement to warn a consumer of this change; in fact, I&#8217;ve heard of at least one case where a purchase was being made within the credit limit, but the company decided to drop the limit at the same time, resulting in a fee.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andy</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-192997</link> <dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:49:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-192997</guid> <description>That sucks, but you could have prevented that fee if you had just paid closer attention to your balance and not been so dangerously close to being over your limit. It&#039;s your responsibility to monitor that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sucks, but you could have prevented that fee if you had just paid closer attention to your balance and not been so dangerously close to being over your limit. It&#8217;s your responsibility to monitor that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andy</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-192996</link> <dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:46:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-192996</guid> <description>These regulations would not be needed if people would just be more responsible. Pay off your credit card in full everytime and never worry about any of these issues... I just hope the government doesn&#039;t decide to take more of my money and give it to others to pay off their credit card bills!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These regulations would not be needed if people would just be more responsible. Pay off your credit card in full everytime and never worry about any of these issues&#8230; I just hope the government doesn&#8217;t decide to take more of my money and give it to others to pay off their credit card bills!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Enrique S</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-192995</link> <dc:creator>Enrique S</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:39:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-192995</guid> <description>I was a victim of #8.  The company authorized a charge that put me $63 over my credit limit, and then assessed a $39 fee.  This bill would be a good thing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a victim of #8.  The company authorized a charge that put me $63 over my credit limit, and then assessed a $39 fee.  This bill would be a good thing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SJ</title><link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2009/04/23/new-proposed-regulations-for-credit-cards/#comment-192994</link> <dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:05:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/?p=6014#comment-192994</guid> <description>Wow. I didn&#039;t know about #4 was going on. And as for #8, it&#039;s the same as the &quot;service&quot; for banks to cover overdrafts right? Tho I do believe that&#039;s an opt-in service.Pretty interesting. Doubt any of that will affect me =)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I didn&#8217;t know about #4 was going on. And as for #8, it&#8217;s the same as the &#8220;service&#8221; for banks to cover overdrafts right? Tho I do believe that&#8217;s an opt-in service.</p><p>Pretty interesting. Doubt any of that will affect me =)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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