Comments on: Comparing the Visa Black Card With American Express Platinum and Centurion Cards

By: db

db — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:57:53 +0000

The card – I got the offer in the mail, filled out the application and received the card about a week later. Its packaging was very nice and card looks and feels amazing.

The limit – My limit was $10,000 which is hilarious for a card where you’re supposed to have the power to make very large purchases.

The gifts – About a month later I received an engraved multipurpose pen, pencil and stylus.

The concierge service – I called inquire about hotel room reservations in Miami, FL. About 28 hours later I received an email with my options. Thats a long time to wait. I could’ve went on any internet based travel site and got the results in a fraction of the time.

The winner – Barclay’s. Think about it…Barclay’s states only 1% of the U.S. residents (308,899) will be approved for the card, which equates to $152,905,005 (308,899 x $495) in annual fees!

The verdict – The value of this card isn’t worth $495 a year and I will be canceling before the next membership fee is due. Save your money get a basic rewards card with no annual fee and comparable interest rate because the Visa Black Card isn’t worth the money.

By: FA

FA — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:15:23 +0000

I live and work in Palm Beach, FL. I have had the Amex Centurion Card for about 5 years now and the $2500/year fee is fine. (disclaimer: I spend about 40k/month on card) I get cash back and bonus’ for everything. I get upgraded on flights for free. I get into resturants in Philly, New York, LA, with a simple phone call when I visit. The black card from Visa is for those who need an ego boost. You get cash back of 1%, but thats really about it. (disclaimer: I do not have the Visa Black Card) I use the Chase Freedom Visa for everything that doesn’t take Amex. The Chase card is great for the everyday person. They give you 1% back plus bonus points that can equal up to an additional 1% and it has no annual fee. If you have an account at Chase or JPMorgan you get even more bonus points. Hope this helps.

By: DT

DT — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:48:24 +0000

Does anyone feel that he/she has a line by line comparison of the Visa Black vs. Amex platinum? Also, by reading the above responses, it appears to me that both Visa & Amex change the rules regularly such that any decision today probably doesn’t have much longevity to it. Any responses would be appreciated.

By: Julie in CA

Julie in CA — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:03:09 +0000

Just got my Visa Black Card today. I’m FURIOUS with this ripoff. I’ve been an AMEX platinum card holder for a few years. I thought about canceling my AMEX platinum when they dropped their companion ticket benefit. I justified the cost of the card ($450 annual) with the free companion tickets. The main reason I got it was for access to airport lounges, but that benefit was imperfect — I have status on United, and United seems to be the only airline that the Amex Platinum card doesn’t get you access to. And since San Francisco is my home airport, it just didn’t make sense to leave United.

So when I was invited to get the Visa Black Card, I was thrilled to learn that I could get access to United’s airport lounges. I even called customer service to confirm this. Today I got my new card, activated it, signed up for the airport club access and ONLY THEN discovered that it isn’t really included as a card benefit. The first four visits are free, but after that they charge you $27 per person per visit. This, in my mind, is BS — and false advertising. I can’t find any fine print anywhere that explains this, and had I known I would have kept my Amex Platinum card.

For $495 per year Visa Black dares to play tricks on your customers AFTER we’ve been hit with a credit check that could dampen my perfect credit score? I’ve been a customer for less than 1 hour, I’m furious, and I’m canceling this card and ranting about it every chance I get. Visa, shame on you.

By: mark m

mark m — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:08:48 +0000

I had a Plat card, I earn 60k and had a 730 score. Never any missed payments, just a limited score due to a limited credit history as I emigrated to the US. I canceled it before my annual fee renewal as there really is no benefit having it. I now use my Citi AAdvantage Mastercard, it’s cheaper plus I get a lot of miles which I can redeem for free flights back to the UK.
Shame really, but once you’ve been hit with a $450 fee, you learn that $85 plus miles is way better.

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:54:49 +0000

I had this card for a few months. I have a high income and excellent credit. Inadvertently went over the limit purchasing a gift for my wife. They sent me a letter saying they were raising my rate to 24.9% or I could opt out by cancelling the account. I cancelled the account and will pay off as soon as the bill comes. It is bad enough that they charge a large fee but to try and rob you on the interest rate? BEWARE!

By: PK

PK — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:01:54 +0000

I use the AMEX platinum often. I will say that the $450 fee is a steal. I use the concierge service early and often and would have to say i make up the $450 in a matter of months just on cover charges i save at nightclubs for me and my friends when they call ahead of time to put us on the list. Airport lounges are nice and save a pretty penny. I have used them for their fine hotels and resorts program which is only for pretty ridiculous hotels but on the few occassions i used them they got me a better than advertised rate, a free upgrade, a late check out, and a free gift from the hotel (at skylofts in vegas it was their $50 continental breakfast for two every day of your stay). I mean if you travel and do a lot of nightlife oriented things, the AMEX plat is worth is weight in gold. I did get suckered into the visa black just to see if the concierge service was good and no contest AMEX hands down. Visa black called to get us on a list at a club and was told the list was closed, 5 minutes later the AMEX concierge called and it was done and we were met by the GM of the club out front for a smooth entry. I am an AMEX man all the way. If you get one use the perks and you will not even sweat the annual fee.

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:45:26 +0000

I recieved a black card invitation in the mail, and I have never even owned a credit card! haha I am 21 and still in college! With no income and absolutely no credit history, getting this invitation was obviously a mistake. They must know how cool and fun I am.

By: Mike V.

Mike V. — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:56:32 +0000

Only an idiot would pay 500 dollars a year for a flipping credit card.
The Visa Black Card is for middle income earners that want to pretend they are wealthy.
Like the dolts that live in their mom’s basement and go out on Friday night to buy “bottle service” at some stupid club..

By: mganderson1

mganderson1 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:58:15 +0000

Ditto, I got one of the Visa Black Cards last month. My brother has the Amex Centurion Card and thought this this would be somewhat comparable. Wrong. It looks like cheaper plastic than my Visa Signature card.

By: Shelley

Shelley — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:25:58 +0000

The real benefit to the Amex Platinum and the Visa Black Card is in the concierge services. You can get a table at exclusive restaurants that are booked for several months anytime with these cards. You can also get better seats at concerts and theatre events, again, at the drop of a hat and as late as the day of the event. If that’s your lifestyle, then it’s worth the $495 annual fee. It’s greatest benefit is “exclusive spontaneity.” It’s not for everyone, but it’s great for some of us who value the convenience of never being told “no table” or “no seats available.”

By: meg

meg — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:46:04 +0000

I just today received my pre-approved invitation in a lovely jet black envelope. My motto: Any financial institution that wants me as an exclusive member (for a fee) is probably not an institution I want to belong to.

Great gimmick.

By: john l. mccowen

john l. mccowen — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:25:24 +0000

PRAY… TELL ME WHAT GOOD IS THIS CARD ? A $495 FEE ? UGA MUGA ! YOU ARE BLOWING A GREAT DEAL OF ARTFUL SMOKE ON YOUR SELF… I REALY WANT TO KNOW…

4495 FEE

By: Henry G.

Henry G. — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:11:08 +0000

Dave and Chris R., ..both of you guys are correct… I too hold a American Express Platinum Card . American Express did indeed discontinue the free ‘Domestic’ Companion ticket portion of their program. But they kept the ‘International’ Companion ticket part. I actually thought about going back to Gold or even the Green Card because the value of the Platinum Card had been cheapened or de-valued with no decrease in annual fee. I am glad to see Visa Black come on the market because it gives some other choices to guys like us that feel we were lured to Amex Platinum with such perks as Free Domestic Companion tickets, and then had the rug snatched right from under us.

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:04:10 +0000

Chris-I’m running into the same situation with my Platinum. Have had one since the mid-90’s and originally got it due to the great travel-related benefits. But now, they’ve taken some of them away, the cost has gone up, etc. I actually was on the phone with AMEX yesterday and will be transitioning to a Gold when the next annual fee rolls around. Account is still the same, credit is not effected, etc. Give them a call…

By: Chris R

Chris R — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:21:37 +0000

I’m an American Express Platinum card member. They used to have a benefit where you could get four free domestic companion airline tickets per year. Most of the time this wasn’t worth it as you had to purchase non-discount tickets though American Express Travel. However there would typically be at least one blackout-date trip back home per year and the savings for my wife and I to fly to a non-major airport would more than exceed the annual $495 fee. It’s also nice to get higher status memberships to rental car companies, hotels, and you can get into the nicer waiting areas at the airport (such as American Airlines’ Admirals’ Lounge).

However since they’ve done away with the companion ticket program, I’m really wrestling with keeping the card. It certainly doesn’t pay for itself now and I don’t travel enough to take advantage of most of its benefits. The only thing holding me back at this point is not wanting to inflict any damage to my credit score by closing an account with whom I have a great credit record. Too bad I closed my “Green” card with AMEX once I got the Platinum card (no reason to pay two annual fees).

By: Taj

Taj — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:36:05 +0000

I got a pre-approved offer in the mail today for this card. I can’t see any other reason to apply for it beyond saying that I have the card in my wallet. I currently have a black diamond card from CITI with no annual fee and a platinum from Bank of America, again without the fee, so what’s the point of the black card? Just a waste.

By: prl

prl — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:14:22 +0000

Just got a VISA Black Card, NOT impressed with quality of the card for $495…..any of my other credit cards are nicer looking, thought a carbon card would be a stiff metal like material, however it appears to be just cheap plastic…. Come on you guys at Visa Black Card marketing, spend a little more out of the $495 and give folks at least a nice looking card they can showoff and help boost their ego’s, not some cheap piece of plastic that you bs folks into thinking is carbon! You’ll be getting lotsa returns/cancellations of the card before its activated because of this!

By: JimmyDaGeek

JimmyDaGeek — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:53:36 +0000

I have a couple of Citi World cards which apparently let me borrow above my credit limit without any fees, but must be brought below the limit by the next due date.

By: KC

KC — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:13:39 +0000

I have a Mastercard that is all black and looks really cool. At first I thought it was some sort of promotion, but it wasn’t – same no fee card I’ve always had. I think I’ll keep it instead of applying for one of these – afraid I don’t meet the spending requirements.

By: Erik

Erik — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:17:58 +0000

Total wastes of money. I will go out on a limb and say that the only people that carry the black cards are ones that can qualify for it and are immature enough to care about telling people that they have one.