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		<title>By: Dus10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dus10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

I hate it when I get into situations like that.  Too often I get into a situation where it seems like a carrot is being placed in front of me when I am already in a position where I am not pleased.  If basically becomes a nearly worthless benefit, because I will not be there long enough.  Currently, I get a 10% profit sharing contribution to my 401(k), but it is not vested, and I don&#039;t think I am going to stick around for it to get vested... which is a pity.  Fortunately, they match my first 5% with 4%, and it is vested.  I just bumped my contributions to 6% so that I am getting an even 10% of my pay placed into my 401(k).

The job I am interviewing for looks to offer a 6% match on my first 6%, so that will be great.  And with the nice salary increase I will be getting, it won&#039;t be too much smaller than the dollar figure I was getting with the total of 19% that I was getting contributed (5% by me, 4% match, and 10% profit sharing).  Plus, I get ESPP with the new company, which will be awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>I hate it when I get into situations like that.  Too often I get into a situation where it seems like a carrot is being placed in front of me when I am already in a position where I am not pleased.  If basically becomes a nearly worthless benefit, because I will not be there long enough.  Currently, I get a 10% profit sharing contribution to my 401(k), but it is not vested, and I don&#8217;t think I am going to stick around for it to get vested&#8230; which is a pity.  Fortunately, they match my first 5% with 4%, and it is vested.  I just bumped my contributions to 6% so that I am getting an even 10% of my pay placed into my 401(k).</p>
<p>The job I am interviewing for looks to offer a 6% match on my first 6%, so that will be great.  And with the nice salary increase I will be getting, it won&#8217;t be too much smaller than the dollar figure I was getting with the total of 19% that I was getting contributed (5% by me, 4% match, and 10% profit sharing).  Plus, I get ESPP with the new company, which will be awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ESPP doesn&#039;t offer a discount; shares are purchased monthly with the cash I&#039;ve deposited into the account, using the average price of the 5 days leading up to the purchase date.

I don&#039;t have too much money wrapped up in the plan; I have a rather small amount put into it each month, but I don&#039;t even miss the money and it&#039;s been growing decently (stock is up almost 50% over the past year).

I haven&#039;t decided yet whether I&#039;ll be increasing my contribution next year or not. I know I should probably increase tax-deferred investment plans first (401k) but I&#039;m not terribly impressed with the plan we have.

My previous employer had a discount plan which was confusing to me and required a large up-front cash outlay. You could buy in once a year at a certain price (lower than the current trading price), had to hold for a certain amount of time, and were guaranteed a minimum payout. I never got into it because it was complicated, and seemed to be tilted in favor of people who intended to stay with the company for a long time; at the time the plan was first offered, I was already looking for a new job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ESPP doesn&#8217;t offer a discount; shares are purchased monthly with the cash I&#8217;ve deposited into the account, using the average price of the 5 days leading up to the purchase date.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have too much money wrapped up in the plan; I have a rather small amount put into it each month, but I don&#8217;t even miss the money and it&#8217;s been growing decently (stock is up almost 50% over the past year).</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t decided yet whether I&#8217;ll be increasing my contribution next year or not. I know I should probably increase tax-deferred investment plans first (401k) but I&#8217;m not terribly impressed with the plan we have.</p>
<p>My previous employer had a discount plan which was confusing to me and required a large up-front cash outlay. You could buy in once a year at a certain price (lower than the current trading price), had to hold for a certain amount of time, and were guaranteed a minimum payout. I never got into it because it was complicated, and seemed to be tilted in favor of people who intended to stay with the company for a long time; at the time the plan was first offered, I was already looking for a new job.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our stock purchase plan offers a 15% discount and the stock is bought quarterly.  I used to use a few percent of pay, but then read someones blog and decided to also max out my purchases to 10% of pay.  It comes out to a few thousand a quarter.  This last quarter had the best purchase price since I have taken advantage of the program with approx. 25% instant return.  It is the easiest money you will ever make.  Max out your stock purchase and leave your 401k as is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our stock purchase plan offers a 15% discount and the stock is bought quarterly.  I used to use a few percent of pay, but then read someones blog and decided to also max out my purchases to 10% of pay.  It comes out to a few thousand a quarter.  This last quarter had the best purchase price since I have taken advantage of the program with approx. 25% instant return.  It is the easiest money you will ever make.  Max out your stock purchase and leave your 401k as is.</p>
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		<title>By: fivecentnickel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not keep up the 401(k) contributions, and then flip the stocks immediately to cash in on the 15% discount, but not hurt your overall cash flow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not keep up the 401(k) contributions, and then flip the stocks immediately to cash in on the 15% discount, but not hurt your overall cash flow?</p>
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		<title>By: samerwriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>samerwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My employer offers a very similar program that I take advantage of (except the purchase period is every 6 months rather than every 3 months).

I believe very strongly in _not_ holding onto the stock for two years to get the tax benefits.

My company is the major employer in my area. Therefore my house&#039;s value is dependent on my employer&#039;s success. My paycheck is dependent on my employer&#039;s success. Any index fund I own is impacted by my employer&#039;s success. My stock options are _very_ dependent on my employer&#039;s success.

In other words, my finances are already far too heavily dependent on my employer. Owning company stock, even for tax benefits, just doesn&#039;t make good sense.

Also, while the returns from an employee stock purchase program are great, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a good idea to cut back on your 401k contributions. If you sell the stock at the end of the 3 month period, you can replace the lost income from the next 3 months&#039; contributions with the proceeds. Aside from the first 3 months, there should be no need to cut your 401k contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My employer offers a very similar program that I take advantage of (except the purchase period is every 6 months rather than every 3 months).</p>
<p>I believe very strongly in _not_ holding onto the stock for two years to get the tax benefits.</p>
<p>My company is the major employer in my area. Therefore my house&#8217;s value is dependent on my employer&#8217;s success. My paycheck is dependent on my employer&#8217;s success. Any index fund I own is impacted by my employer&#8217;s success. My stock options are _very_ dependent on my employer&#8217;s success.</p>
<p>In other words, my finances are already far too heavily dependent on my employer. Owning company stock, even for tax benefits, just doesn&#8217;t make good sense.</p>
<p>Also, while the returns from an employee stock purchase program are great, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a good idea to cut back on your 401k contributions. If you sell the stock at the end of the 3 month period, you can replace the lost income from the next 3 months&#8217; contributions with the proceeds. Aside from the first 3 months, there should be no need to cut your 401k contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4% is the minimum I can put into 401(k) to achieve maximum employer match.  For me to contribute the IRS maximum of $15,000 into the 401(k), I&#039;d have to defer about 33%.  I can&#039;t afford that.  I&#039;m not sure what you mean by &quot;is it good in long term...&quot; is the investment good?  The 401(k) has done well so far, but past performance doesn&#039;t predict future results...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4% is the minimum I can put into 401(k) to achieve maximum employer match.  For me to contribute the IRS maximum of $15,000 into the 401(k), I&#8217;d have to defer about 33%.  I can&#8217;t afford that.  I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8220;is it good in long term&#8230;&#8221; is the investment good?  The 401(k) has done well so far, but past performance doesn&#8217;t predict future results&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really quite a generous offer at 15% discount. Hope your company&#039;s stock can stay its current trend long enough for you to take full advantage of the benefit. 

However, when you reduce your 401(k) contribution to 4%, are you still maxing out to the limit? If not, is it good in long term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really quite a generous offer at 15% discount. Hope your company&#8217;s stock can stay its current trend long enough for you to take full advantage of the benefit. </p>
<p>However, when you reduce your 401(k) contribution to 4%, are you still maxing out to the limit? If not, is it good in long term?</p>
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		<title>By: 2million</title>
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		<dc:creator>2million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats!  My employer once had  a great benefit just like this one too.  Now its been reduced to a 5% discount and there is no longer an optioning effect like you are offered - the price offered is the market price on the pay date.

I think you will find the return on you new benefit enough to take advantage of it as much as you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats!  My employer once had  a great benefit just like this one too.  Now its been reduced to a 5% discount and there is no longer an optioning effect like you are offered &#8211; the price offered is the market price on the pay date.</p>
<p>I think you will find the return on you new benefit enough to take advantage of it as much as you can.</p>
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