Comments on: People Will Judge You Based on Your Name

By: Frank D Morrow

Frank D Morrow — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:46:01 +0000

formally souding long names tead to mak the person souol more sophistifcate and learned

By: Chalkbored

Chalkbored — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:38:23 +0000

There are various considerations here. One is the concern that a prejudicial bias will affect your chances of getting a job. How much bias there is may depend on region as well as the type of industry. Another is the idea that by changing who you are, you are accommodating that bias. And would you want to work at a place that has such a bias to begin with? It’s not clear that one should or shouldn’t change their name to improve their job hunting chances. If you are in San Francisco, and you are notably proficient in your field, you probably have no need to do so. But for others who are struggling to find work, anything to improve one’s chances might seem a desirable option. Still, finding a job in the current market is difficult anyway. You might change your name and find that you still can’t get work.

My own view is that the practicality of changing one’s name is not all that certain, and the accommodation factor is pretty sinister. People will judge you on the color of your skin as well. Should one bleach his/her skin before a job interview?

Also, MyJourney (who made an idiotic “ghetto” comment) posted (and obviously didn’t read) a very good article. It claims that the correlation of name and life outcome doesn’t indicate a causational relationship. “If two black boys, Jake Williams and DeShawn Williams, are born in the same neighborhood and into the same familial and economic circumstances, they would likely have similar life outcomes.” So according to this article by economist Steven Levitt, a person with a unique name may not get the job, but changing his/her name won’t get him/her the job either.

By: MLR

MLR — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:50:05 +0000

The two names cited in this study were Lakisha and Jamal. As such, your implication that these people can’t get jobs because their names sound ghetto would apply to the two names in the study. Lakisha and especially Jamal do not scream ghetto to me. In fact, I can’t think of a name that does.

If a certain name screams ghetto to you, is that not a sign of your prejudice and/or racism? Racism may be debatable, but that is pretty much a text book definition of prejudice. Connotations are internally contrived, so why don’t you be step 1 in eradicating the problem… realize that your prejudices are a step backwards.

By: My Journey

My Journey — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:16:33 +0000

MRL,

I am confused…When did I say Jamal was ghetto? There are certain names that give a connatation.

By: Neal@wealthpilgrim.com

Neal@wealthpilgrim.com — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:39:29 +0000

Bold and brave topic Mr. F.

I think everyone can agree that the need to adapt to prejudice is shameful. But that doesn’t mean it’s wrong to change your name. As someone said before me, you can’t fight the system if you don’t have a job.

Also, I wish this problem was restricted to the USA but it isn’t. My sister-in-law lives outside the USA and she had to change her name in order to get into law school.

By: MLR

MLR — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:10:09 +0000

That’s fine and all… you didn’t say it was a culturally significant name, though. You said it was ghetto. What makes the name ghetto?

By: MyJourney

MyJourney — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:02:48 +0000

There might be racial undertones (not racist), but racial…just like you don’t see many white people running around with the name Lakisha or just like you don’t see many black people running around with the name of Carmela.

Check out a freaknomic commentary on the same subject:
http://www.slate.com/id/2116449/

By: Writer's Coin

Writer's Coin — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:35:45 +0000

I think about this all the time because my name is foreign. The thing is, I look as American as they come so when people see me I sometimes wonder if they’re like “Whoa, not what I thought.”

But I also have visions of HR people sifting through resumes going, “Hey Becky, look at how many letters this guy has in his last name!” before chucking it in the garbage. I never worried about it until a year or so ago because I’ve never been treated differently. I look just like everyone else, it’s the name that might throw you off.

By: ctreit

ctreit — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:18:54 +0000

We have all kinds of prejudices. Just yesterday I was reading an article about teachers having prejudices against certain first names. There is not much these little fellows can do about that. Now we know that we don’t only have to worry about being too dark, too short, too fat,….

By: MLR

MLR — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:07:15 +0000

My Journey — Your response to Stefanie hints at some racist undertones, too. What exactly makes Jamal “ghetto?”

Stefanie — Sorry, but your “solution” is pretty naive. So the person should single-handedly forgo potential job opportunities to “fight” the system? I bet they lose that battle.

By: Terry

Terry — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:19:40 +0000

Ron:

What is the best way to address correspondence (e.g. resume/cover letter) to someone identified only by initials (and is therefore of unknown gender), e.g. J.R. Smith?

By: Terry

Terry — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:14:51 +0000

I went to (a parochial) high school with Doug Perry. Found out from my girlfriend (he lived in her neighborhood, not mine) his parents had Americanized their surname from Perez.

By: David@DINKS Finance

David@DINKS Finance — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:05:48 +0000

This is very interesting. It’s unfortunate that this is true, but I think it will change within this century. There is so much diversity in the workplace, really no matter where you go, that I think eventually names won’t matter much.

So, please, don’t make this change how you plan on naming your child!

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:21:42 +0000

This is a very, very interesting topic. It’s a racial topic, but I can see how having a common, recognizable name can give you the leg up when submitting resumes. It’s not right, but it’s a fact of life. Fantastic post.

By: MyJourney

MyJourney — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:24:12 +0000

Stephanie,

“As such, no one shoudl be changing their name, or the way its spelled out or looks on their resume, they should be fighting the system that is racist in the first place.”

Kind of hard to fight the system when you can’t get a job because your name sounds ghetto?

By: Ellen @ MoneyLounge.net

Ellen @ MoneyLounge.net — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:58:02 +0000

I would have to say that the practice of changing one’s name to Americanize it is not something that has died down. In fact, I can think of several people close to me who have changed their names for this reason: one, a man who owned a business and went by ‘Tim’ as opposed to his Vietnamese name, another, a friend searching for a job in a lucrative field who changed her last name from her father’s Chinese name, to her step-father’s very American last name.

It’s a shame that people are afraid to hire or even interview others because of this difference. Unfortunately, we have yet to see major strides made in this area.

By: Stefanie

Stefanie — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:47:08 +0000

This is not about a name per se, its about racism and xenophobia, pure and simple. As such, no one shoudl be changing their name, or the way its spelled out or looks on their resume, they should be fighting the system that is racist in the first place.

While you mention that none of your solutions are particularly good ones, I find it disturbing that you would suggest any changes for applicants at all – its not their problem, its the companies/ individuals that wouldn’t hire them that is the problem. And why would anyone WANT to work in that kind of racist environment anyway?

By: Ron

Ron — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:41:20 +0000

I had a friend who would only put his first two initials and his last name on business cards. That way people were forced to call him “Mr. Fowler.”

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:27:15 +0000

I’d suggest “Max Power” for anyone looking to change their name to help their careers.