Comments on: Saving is Anti-American

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:47:23 +0000

I find balance relatively easy to achieve. I do like samerwriter and stash away half before I ever see it. But then, and this is where balance comes in, I completely allow myself permission to spend the rest of it on any frivolous thing I want. (Most months, at least 1/5 of the 1/2 goes to some charity or another that catches my eye, and always about 1/5 of the 1/2 goes to rent, so certainly not the full half goes for “frivolous” things, but you get my point).

It’s hard to achieve a better “balance” than 50-50… almost by definition, I’d say.

By: real people, real finances

real people, real finances — Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:03:28 +0000

there were also some negatives in the report like only 11% who did have extra money were putting away money toward retirement. It’s kind of funny when Americans come out last but everyone is happy because “Americans are improving”

By: RS

RS — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:53:03 +0000

There has to be a balance. There is no point in saving all of your money for retirement and not getting any enjoyment out of it today. This is something that I struggle with all the time…on one hand, I am still young and making good money that I would like to spend on vacations, TVs, Xbox games, and other cool gadgets. Then on the other hand, I know that I need to save for retirement…but who knows what could happen in the next 30 years or so. I may not even be around. As I said, I struggle with this problem…I have no idea what the correct balance is. I guess it is just a plus that I am saving for retirement. Could I do more? Sure, but then I wouldn’t be enjoying my 54 inch HD TV that I love.

By: samerwriter

samerwriter — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:28:58 +0000

RS: I agree — I also struggle with this balance –with a very large caveat.

Using money to increase our present-day happiness makes a lot of sense to me. But it turns out that most of the things we want and spend money on, really don’t increase happiness at all.

Everyone seems to have a friend who always has the latest cellphone or ipod — I have a couple such friends. The fact that they’re on a constant upgrade cycle tells me that despite dropping hundreds of dollars on these gadgets they really aren’t happy with them. What _does_ make them happy is thinking that they have the latest and greatest, but unfortunately there is always something later and greater that they’ll have to buy.

On the other hand if, being fully aware of the above problem, I decide to splurge on something (we’re building a home theater in our basement, for example), I sincerely hope that I can avoid feeling guilty about spending the money.

By: Flexo

Flexo — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:30:40 +0000

But Will, you can’t watch the Big Game or Star Wars Episode III on a stock certificate. :-)

By: Will Kirby

Will Kirby — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 05:30:28 +0000

First off, if the above poster is saving 50% of their income – i’m VERY impressed! That’s FANTASTIC!!!

I’m still in law school so my income is insanely low. Right now it’s enough to get by and save a couple hundred here or there. I’m totally focused on saving right now – even though i’m not putting anywhere near my Roth IRA max. I’m just letting compound interest magnify the little that I do put in today.

I’d love to save up for that big screen TV, but in the end that TV will just goto the junk yard. That money, if invested will go a lot further!

By: samerwriter

samerwriter — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:06:42 +0000

It’s not entirely clear from the article how they account for dollars being used for debt reduction vs. extra cash. I.e. paying down debt could be a use for discretionary dollars.

If paying down debt counts as having money left, I wonder if the increased credit card minimum payments have something to do with this.

I deal with money the same way you do — my wife claims I create an “environment of artificial scarcity”. We stash as much as possible into savings before we ever see our paychecks, so the amount of money we see only leaves a little extra after bills are paid. We always feel like we’re short on cash, but that’s because we save about 50% of our gross income before we see any of it.