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The following is a guest post from Neal Frankle, a Certified Financial Planner in Los Angeles who owns the financial blog Wealth Pilgrim. Neal has been a financial planner for the past twenty-seven years and is writing this article on Consumerism Commentary to share what he has learned from his experiences with clients over these three decades.

Even if you’ve been pursuing in your career for only a couple of years, you’ve already learned a great deal about your profession and people in general. I’ve had the same experience. Twenty-seven years ago, one of the small business ideas I had was to become a financial planner. And over that period, I’ve learned quite a few lessons about Wall Street, my clients, and myself.

What I’ve learned about Wall Street

Everything you hear about Wall Street isn’t true –- but most of it is. I’ve found that the higher up you go in management, the more detached and greedy “the machine” becomes. In fact, I’m astounded by the depths to which some firms go to enrich themselves at the expense of investors. Having said that, I must say that I’m not sure this attitude is any different from other industries.

Since I spent very little time working in corporate America I don’t know this for sure, but my guess is that all large corporations encourage political jockeying and self-serving behavior. Wall Street is no different. Take the index annuity product as an example.

When these babies were first introduced, they were some of the best investments I’d ever seen. They allowed investors to participate in growth when the market was good and protected investors from declining markets. But over time, the fat cats got wise. They realized that they could play with the way those indexes were calculated and thereby keep more profit for themselves at the expense of investors. Now, index annuities are terrible investments. This is just one of many examples.

I’ve also learned that competition sometimes works, and the mutual fund industry is a great example of this. Mutual fund fees and expenses have been dropping relentlessly over time as competition increases from Exchange Traded Funds. In short, in the debate between exchange-traded funds and mutual funds, ETFs and index funds are wining hands down.

Last, I learned that the fee structure an advisor uses says a lot about the relationship clients are going to have with the advisor. This may be self-serving because I’m a fee-only advisor. Fee-only advisors are compensated if and only if they serve clients over time. That doesn’t mean they’re going to do it, and it doesn’t mean they know how to do a good job or that fee-only advisors are qualified. Anyone can become a financial planner.

Over the long-haul, advisors generally don’t stay in business if they don’t deliver. That’s not the case with salespeople earning commissions. They get paid up front, and there is a disincentive to serve clients. Not every commission-based advisor is a shyster of course. But when someone is compensated to sell rather than advise, that’s what they’re going to do.

My experience is that commissions put advisors and clients on opposite sides of the table. Generally, the reverse is true when it comes to fee-based planners. Again, this is a generalization and there are many exceptions on both sides of the equation, but for the most part, I’ve experienced this to be true.

What I’ve learned about clients

I’ve learned that people dislike losing money more than they enjoy making money. This aversion to losing money is unfortunately and paradoxically the very reason why many investors get wiped out. If someone has no ability to absorb investment losses, they’ll do one of two things. One potential response is to stick all the money in the bank for protection. Over time, this is a losing proposition.

The other response is to invest emotionally. When the market feels good, this investor becomes aggressive. When the market feels scary, this person goes into cash. This is a perfect recipe for disaster, of course. It’s called buying high and selling low, the opposite of how someone succeeds with investing.

I don’t believe in the buy and hold strategy. There are other strategies that are more market-sensitive, and these can help investors mitigate losses and take advantage of good opportunities. That’s how I manage money, but the method I believe in is far from perfect. It is a system and not an emotional reaction. This, like any other investment methodology, has its flaws.

Some people will tell you me that they want to be aggressive investors. That may be true — until the market turns against them. Just as I need constant education in areas I know little about, some people really need to be reminded frequently about the trade-off between risk and reward. Client understanding and education is not a one-time event.

Few clients have a financial plan and even those who do rarely execute it. They aren’t clear on their objectives and they don’t know how much they’ll need to reach their goals. (Do you know how much money you need to retire?) This is a real shame. I’ve seen people with very low salaries living their dream life because they formulated a plan and executed it, and I know multi-millionaires who are absolutely miserable and live in fear. That’s because they don’t understand the basics of financial planning and refuse to learn it.

What I’ve learned about myself

I’ve learned a great deal about myself over the last quarter century as a financial planner. The most important lesson I’ve learned is that I can’t do better than my best. I used to be harder on myself than any of my clients were. In fact, during the 2008 market melt-down, clients called because they were worried about me, not their money. While my clients’ investments happened to be performing better than the market that year, we still lost money. I didn’t like that and I felt as though I had let my clients down. I was mistaken to feel this way, but I felt that way nonetheless.

I’ve learned that if I did my best, that was good enough. If it wasn’t good enough for a client, that was the client’s problem, not mine. I’ve learned that most people are good, honest and responsible. Let me tell you, when you deal with a person’s money you really get to know them. As the years pass, I’m more and more impressed by the inherent good I see in others.

I have no plans to retire. I enjoy what I do too much. I believe that the future has a great deal of opportunities ahead, and its share of challenges, as well. The most important thing I’ve learned is that I have no idea what’s coming down the pike. That’s what makes being a financial planner so fascinating.

What have you learned about yourself, others and your profession over the last several years? Were you surprised?

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This is a guest article by RJ Weiss, one of the youngest Certified Financial Planners at the age of 26 and the founder of the blog Gen Y Wealth. You can download his free Financial Freedom Blueprint to create your own financial plan. RJ Weiss is contributing to Consumerism Commentary’s series on finding and working with the right financial adviser or planner with this article about being prepared for your first working meeting.

You’ve hired a Certified Financial Planner, and you’re days away from the first meeting. It’s a very exciting time, as you imagine your bright financial future.

The first step to ensure that your initial meeting goes well is to gather the information you’ll need to form the basis of your discussions. In order to make a comprehensive financial plan, a financial planner must know where you’ve been, where you are, and where you want to go. Once your planner has this information, they can start to design a plan that gives you the best chance of reaching your goals.

The purpose of this article is to walk you through the information-gathering process for your first meeting with a CFP. Most financial planners will ask you for these documents either before or during your first meeting, but in my experience, it’s always better if a client shows up prepared.

The following are the eight things you need to have with you to be prepared for a meeting with your financial planner.

  1. Net worth statement with recent account statements. A net worth statement is easy to make, and helpful to have. A simple excel spreadsheet sorted by assets and liabilities, is all you need. Consumerism Commentary offers a good net worth template for Excel that can get you started in the right direction.

    Along with your net worth statement, bring the most recent statements that match each account listed. Include your bank accounts investment accounts, including retirement accounts such as IRAs and 401(k)s, so you planner can review your entire asset allocation.

  2. Statement of cash flows. A doctor can’t do their job without knowing your health history. Likewise, a financial planner can’t do their job, unless they know your monthly income and expenses. In other words, you need to prepare a budget.The more detailed your budget the better. At a minimum, break out your expenses between fixed (mortgage, utilities, insurance, car, food, etc…) and flexible (travel, eating out, subscriptions, etc…) from the last three months. Again, Consumerism Commentary has designed an income and expense report template that should do the job.
  3. List of 401(k) investment options sorted by expense ratio. If you want to save your planner a lot of time, bring a list of your 401(k) investment options, sorted by expense ratio. You may need to look at the prospectuses for each of the funds offered in order to find the expense ratio, and if you have annuities-based funds, that information might be difficult to find.
  4. Social Security statements. Bring the Social Security statement that you receive once a year and file away. If you can’t find your most recent copy, you can get an estimate online.
  5. Your goals, including projected retirement age. Knowing when you’d like to retire is a tremendous help to your planner. One of the basic calculations your planner will help you out with is to see if you’re saving enough for retirement.

    Besides a retirement date, write down your other financial goals. Are you looking to save for college for a child or grandchild? Are you looking to travel more? What about buying or selling your house? A good financial planner will take you through this process during your meeting, but the idea here is to put some thought into it beforehand, so you know what you really want.. Life often goes in an unplanned direction, but being as clear as possible with your goals is the only way planners can begin to design a plan that meets your needs.

  6. Tax returns and paycheck stubs. On more than one occasion, I have seen someone with high-interest debt, giving a free loan to the Government. One adjustment to their W-4, and all of a sudden, this person can now start paying off their debt. This is just one good example of why you should bring your recent tax return and paycheck stubs. Also, many people don’t really have a good understanding of how much income they earn. In my experience, when you ask how much they earn, they tend to round up, making precise planning difficult.
  7. Insurance information. As a Certified Financial Planner with an insurance background, I know firsthand that no one likes paying for insurance. Reviewing insurance documents may not sound as exciting as planning for an early retirement, but it’s just as important.

    The ironic thing about insurance planning (because nobody likes to pay for it) is that people are often over-insured. As a result, there is a good chance a client can save a tremendous amount of money by reviewing their insurance. For example, someone who hasn’t been to the doctor in a few years but still pays for a health insurance plan with a low deductible could benefit financially from changing his coverage options. Or, someone might pay $200 a year to insure her computer, but won’t spend that much for a term-life insurance policy.

  8. Benefits package. If your employer offers benefits such as health, life, dental, disability, dental, or vision insurance, bring coverage information pertaining to each plan. You probably received a packet at open enrollment with all of this information. Also bring the rest of your benefit information such as 401(k), pension, FSA, employee stock option plan, profit sharing, tuition reimbursement, child care, and any other benefits offered by your employer.

I applaud you for working with a Certified Financial Planner. The steps above may sound tedious, but it’s for your benefit. A client who shows up prepared shaves off hours off of the total time it takes to put together a comprehensive financial plan. If you’re working with a fee-only planner, that results in immediate savings to you.

Best of luck.

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Consumerism Commentary Podcast host and producer Tom Dziubek returns this week, in the role of a guest. Tom has spent the past few months working for a financial services firm focusing on preparing and filing tax returns for clients. Today, Tom is joining me to speak about common and uncommon issues households experience with their taxes.

Tom will be returning as the podcast host and producer later this month.

Consumerism Commentary Podcast #102
The Squeaky Wheel: S04E24 / 127

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Table of contents

[00:00] Introduction from Flexo
[00:39] Interview with tom Dziubek
[00:54] The path to financial services
[02:20] Keeping busy during tax season
[03:29] Tips for procrastinators
[05:14] Typical clients using tax services
[08:16] Getting a bigger refund, outsmarting the government
[13:13] Tax tips for people on Social Security
[14:54] Homebuyer and energy credits
[16:08] Representing clients with IRS audits
[17:05] Dealing with cancellation of debt
[19:15] Options for paying large tax bills
[20:08] After the tax deadline
]– [22:15] End

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The Baby Boomer Generation consists of Americans born between about 1946 and about 1964. Many individuals in this generation are approaching the typical retirement age, as defined by the U.S. government’s tax and benefit policies. While some are delaying their retirement thanks in part to recent poor stock market performance, underfunded nest eggs, and the need for continuing income, retirement is still a concern.

Financial companies that create products designed for retirees will likely have several successful decades. With would-be and actual retirees interested in stretching and perhaps guaranteeing income for the remainder of their lives and likely beyond, investment and insurance companies will devise new products to sell. Annuities will probably be the core of any set of products marketed towards retirees, with the promise of guaranteed returns regardless of a stock market that has scared many people away from riskier investments.

Those of us who have several decades before retirement should consider taking advantage of this growing business by investing in companies that offer products to retirees and Baby Boomers.

While I occasionally hear suggestions that investors should leave the stock market now before the mass exodus of Baby Boomers who rebalance from primarily equities to primarily bonds, that shift will probably be too slow to make a difference to an average investor. Baby Boomers won’t suddenly shift from stocks to bonds by virtue of their age or employment status. In order for funds to last as long as possible, Boomers’ investments will have to stay somewhat aggressive.

So I don’t think that it’s a good idea to try to get out of stocks before Baby Boomers do, but I do believe that if your time horizon is beyond the next few decades, invest in the financial services industry. This industry, and therefore the investors in this industry, stand to gain from the number of individuals thinking about retirement in an age group that is both large and willing to spend money on financial services.

Is this market timing? Maybe, but it doesn’t have to be stock trading. The only question that remains is whether the next twenty or thirty years of profits is already considered or included in the share prices of companies in the financial services industry.

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