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Today on the Consumerism Commentary Podcast, Jay Frosting and Flexo talk with Matt Schulz, Vice President of Content for InvestingAnswers.com.

They discuss the implications of a recent legal ruling that excludes credit card application fees from the limit on fees that credit card issuers can charge within the first year.

Consumerism Commentary Podcast
Credit Card Application Fees: S07E01 / 157

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Table of contents

Consumerism Commentary Podcast[00:00] Introduction from Jay Frosting
[00:33] Interview with Flexo and Matt Schulz
[00:49] Challenging the 25% fee limit specified in the Credit CARD Act
[06:00] Will application fees be more pervasive now?
[07:14] Are these fees limited to those with bad credit?
[09:18] A very high interest rate is worse than almost any other option
[12:34] The CFPB is still hearing public comments on this decision
[13:41] Application fees aren’t refundable and don’t guarantee credit
[14:21] The CFPB is trying to get more done before a possible Executive Branch change (addressing Republican criticisms of the bureau)
[18:33] Reduction in debt is part frugality and part banks reducing credit
[20:02] End

Update:

We were mistaken during the recording regarding whether First Premiere refunds its application fee. Here’s what the terms and conditions say:

“Right to Reject: You may still reject this plan, provided you have not used the Credit Account or paid a fee after receiving a billing statement. If you do reject the plan, you are not responsible for any fees or charges, including any Processing Fee(s) paid prior to receipt of your Account Opening Disclosures. Any such Processing Fee(s) previously paid will be refunded upon rejection of the plan.”

It also says this:

“Refund Disclosure: We will refund your Processing Fee and initial fees (those fees that are billed at the time of account opening) if (1) you have not used your Card for a Purchase or Cash Advance; and (2) you have not paid a fee after receiving a billing statement. We will refund any partial payment of the Processing Fee if you do not open your Credit Account within 85 days of approval. We will refund any Credit Limit Increase Fee charged to your Credit Account if you notify us, within 30 days of the date of the Periodic Statement on which it appears, that you do not wish to have the credit limit increase. This will result in a reversal of the credit limit increase. Except as described in this paragraph, these fees are non-refundable.”

Here are the link for the terms and conditions.

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If you’re interested in theater and have money you don’t mind losing, you may consider expanding your horizons by investing in a Broadway or off-Broadway show. Be prepared to lose money, though, because according to a variety of producers, only one show in five breaks even.

When a play or musical is in the planning stages, producers seek out investors to cover the costs of getting the show to opening night. After the show opens, income from the box office should pay for operating expenses. Any positive cash flow after expenses is distributed back to investors until their initial investments are paid back in full. Any profits after investors are repaid their initial investment are distributed back to the investors and producers, 50 percent to each (in the United States). Some shows never make a profit, but if you’ve backed a hit, you could see healthy returns, comfortably beating the stock market.

Broadway showFor the most part, individuals who wish to invest in theater, due to the risky nature of the business, must be accredited. The investor’s household must have a net worth of $1 million or more, excluding primary residence, or income of at least $200,000 ($300,000 for a married couple) for the past two years. There are ways to invest as a non-accredited investor, but the competition is higher for these opportunities because producers are limited in the number of non-accredited investors they can accept.

While the average investment from an individual is $20,000 to $25,000, you can often invest with $10,000, and sometimes with as little as $5,000. This minimum investment is lower than some mutual funds. The bigger the show and the higher probability of its success, the harder it would be to find an opportunity to invest at these lower amounts.

Ken Davenport, a Broadway producer with experience working closely with investors, took this concept of attracting smaller investors even further. When producing Godspell, Ken took to the streets, accepting investors with as little as $1,000 as a minimum investment. Investors received billing outside the theater and the chance to profit. With the play opening late last year and with the show not exactly being the hottest ticket in town, some investors in ken Davenport’s group, “The People of Godspell,” have reported that they’ve received checks towards paying back their initial investment, though the show seems to be far away from profiting for these investors.

The pioneers of attracting smaller investors to Broadway are Richard Frankel, Marc Routh, Thomas Viertel, and Steven Baruch. This team has produced seventy-five shows, and if an investor had invested $10,000 in each opportunity since 1985 through 2009, he or she would have received an annual rate of return of 27%, compared with the 7.29% of the S&P 500.

If you are not interested in Broadway or the dramatic arts, you may want to avoid investing due to risk. While financial reward is what all investors are seeking, investors in theater often look for intangible or invaluable returns. Producers will often offer investors a chance to be a part of the show, like attending opening night performances and after-show parties with the cast and creative staff, access to house seats, and in the case of Godspell and it’s pool of smaller investors, your name on a poster. For some, these benefits make investing worthwhile despite the risk.

If these benefits are not appealing to you, you may be only focused on the return of an investment, and stand to be disappointed if the show you back is like four out of five shows that never turn a profit.

Similarities to investing in the stock market. Just like a mutual fund, the best returns are reserved for investors who make the best decisions. Assuming you’re familiar with theater in the first place, you may want to become familiar with the production team’s track record before handing over any money to a show. While investors in the stock market may diversify across a variety of investments in an attempt to smooth out the peaks and valleys of investing over time, diversifying among a number of shows could be difficult. There may be only one show a season you find worth your investment, so your diversification must cover a long stretch of time.

Differences to investing in the stock market. When you invest in the stock market, you can do your research from your bedroom. You can read financial statements in the comfort of your own home, transferring money electronically to your bank account to your investment when you’re ready to purchase a stock or fund. All the information you need is available without leaving your house.

Investing in theater is more like investing in a company directly with a major financial commitment or receiving a substantial share of ownership. Before you make a major investment, giving you a substantial stake in a company, you’ll want to meet the executive team, analyze the financial documents, and handle more of the due diligence in person. When investing in a Broadway show, much of the information you need is not available online. You can use the Theatrical Index to look at every active production’s gross receipts and you can use the Internet Broadway Database to verify information about producers and productions, but it’s best to meet the producers in person, learn about the production, and determine whether you believe the show has the potential to succeed.

Early investors in Rent made a fortune; investors in Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark probably won’t receive their initial investment back until the show has been running for four years, if it survives that long. Despite it being the most expensive Broadway show ever put into production, Spider-Man seemed like a safer bet, with a big name producer and a widely-recognized brand.

If you’re interested in getting started, here are a few suggestions.

  • Ken Davenport’s introduction is a good place to start.
  • Consider signing up for the Theatrical Index newsletter (linked above) to have access to financial information.
  • Find producers you’d like to work with, and send them introductory letters via email. Even if the particular producers you’re interested in are not currently looking for investors, you will be on their list to be the first to know when they’re seeking investors for their next projects.
  • Meet the producers in person and get to know the show in its early stages by attending table-reads and rehearsals.
  • Don’t set your expectations too high.

Would you consider investing in a Broadway show?

Photo: kevin dooley
BroadwayWorld, CNBC, New York Times

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Cash back credit cards can help consumers practice responsible spending while earning a little extra for their efforts when used properly. It wasn’t long ago that the best cash back credit cards were offering rewards as high as 5% for all purchases, but that is unfortunately no longer the case.

Today’s cash back credit cards are all similar in nature, generally offering 1% cash back on all purchases. However, if you look hard enough, you’ll find a number of credit cards with higher cash rebates than just 1%. This article lists the best cash back credit cards you can find today, and I update the article when there is new information to share. Along with a brief description of each of the best cards, I have included the cash back percentages and any tiers or restrictions, so there are no surprises if your cash back credit card isn’t earning as much as you first thought. Keep in mind that in order to make credit card with rewards programs worthwhile, you must avoid interest charges and late fees by paying your bill on time and in full every single month.

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Blue Cash Everyday(SM) from American ExpressBlue Cash Everyday℠ from American Express. Of all the cash back cards available, this offers the possibility of earning maximum rewards. The Blue Cash Everyday℠ from American Express Card offers $100 cash back bonus after spending $1,000 in eligible purchases in the first three months as well as 3% cash back on supermarket purchases, 2% cash back on gas and department store purchases and 1% cash back on everything else. This card is a new version of the standard Blue Cash Card and it even offers a $25 referral bonus. Blue Cash Everyday℠ from American Express also includes a 0% introductory offer on purchases for 12 months and carries no annual fee.

Because there are no limits to the cash back rewards and no need to track rotating categories, the Blue Cash Everyday credit card from American Express is the top pick as your “workhouse” cash back card. If you make your regular household purchases on this card, you should be able to get substantial cash back over the course of the year.

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The Discover More Card has been around for quite some time. If you’ve seen a competitor’s commercials on television mentioning the “biggest cash back credit card,” you might be surprised to learn that the commercial is referring to this card. To grow the number of customers, Discover has launched different versions of Discover More over the last few years. To maintain competitiveness with other issuers, Discover was the first issuer in several years to launch a card with no balance transfer fee. Today, Discover has continued their recent run of aggressive promotions by offering a $150 cash bonus to all new Discover More Card members.

The $150 cash bonus that all new Discover More Card holders can receive comes after spending $1,000 during the first 90 days of card ownership. The cash bonus will be added immediately to the statement after the 90 day period has expired. As an added perk, this version of the Discover More Card is offering 2% cash back on all Amazon.com purchases during the first billing period (first 30 days of card ownership), but only up to $250 spent. After that, Discover reduces the Amazon.com cash back bonus to 1%. (That’s a total of $5 cash back under the 2% tier, but unlimited cash back under the 1% tier.)

Year in and year out, consumers consider the Discover More Card to be among the top three cash back credit cards. The rewards program offers 0.25% cash back on the first $3,000 spent annually, then 1% on all purchases thereafter. Discover also offers 5% cash back on select purchases every month. Here is the full 2011 and 2012 calendar including the categories of spending that earn the 5% cash back. Read the full article →

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