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Today’s guest on the Consumerism Commentary Podcast is consumer savings expert Andrea Woroch. Andrew frequently appears on television to speak about retail trends and provide advice for shoppers to break bad buying habits. Visit her website for more information.

Andrea talks with Consumerism Commentary Podcast host and produce Bryan J Busch about the negative effects and deceptive production of the “Extreme Couponing” TV show and how stores have been compelled to change their policies to stop aspiring extreme couponers from clearing shelves and causing a ruckus in the checkout aisles.

They also discuss year-round coupon tips and other ways to save in the supermarket.

Consumerism Commentary Podcast #118
Extreme Couponing Part II: S05E14 / 142

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Table of contents

[00:00] Introduction from Bryan J Busch
[00:34] Interview with Andrea Woroch
[00:50] Is the “Extreme Couponing” TV show giving normal coupons a bad name?
[04:22] How are stores changing their policies as a result, especially with stacking?
[06:45] What if I can’t find the coupon policy on the store website?
[07:28] Is the “extreme couponing party” over?
[09:34] People are stealing newspapers more often just for coupons
[10:14] Andrea’s advice for finding and dealing with coupons responsibly (e.g. Cellfire and Coupon Sherpa)
[14:18] What is up to the store manager’s discretion? Always read the fine print and check for expiration dates.
[16:42] Tactics for saving in addition to coupons
[19:47] End

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I’m a big fan of saving money on necessary spending. Grocery shopping is expensive, and food and household staples present an excellent opportunity to find coupons and save money with every visit. The savings can be substantial if you’re willing to put in the time to find the right coupons, dumpster-dive to collect other people’s circulars, and annoy anyone in line behind you at the cashier as you buy in excessive bulk and wait for all the coupons to be processed.

A recent article on CNN Money describes a coupon addict who, inspired by a television reality show, saved $300 this month on groceries through diligent or obsessive coupon-collecting. She’s a student, and apparently has the free time to scour print and the internet to come up with methods of overbuying that will result in saving money. The grocery bill dropped from $400 to $100, and that’s a great feeling. Getting a 75% discount is a major score for anyone who has to spend money.

Saying she saved $300 is bad math, though, because in order to save $300, she had to spend much more than she would have if she bought only products she needed. The test is whether all the products she purchased — and they are enough to fill up a spare bedroom in the house — are consumed by the family or thrown away because they are not needed until they spoil. Additionally, to buy products on sale, most likely, she compromised on products they would normally buy. The food she purchased might not have been as healthy or as fresh as the food on which she couldn’t have saved as much.

Welcome to America’s new coupon craze. It began nearly three years ago as a sensible response to an economic catastrophe but has since morphed into something more complex — a national fixation with refusing to pay retail that has turned otherwise normal families into coupon-clipping, Dumpster-diving (for circulars), cashier-pestering stockpilers who march through grocery stores with bulging binders of coupons and fill shopping carts with more free jars of mustard and cat food than they could ever use in a lifetime.

There’s no baby in the house, but Lauren couldn’t resist buying 30 containers of infant formula on sale for $3.78 each. Because she had collected piles of $5-off coupons, she earned a $1.22 store credit on each sale — the holy grail to serious couponers. (She used her credit to buy ribs for a Memorial Day feast and donated the formula to tornado victims in nearby Joplin.) As couponing became an obsession, her mom started to worry. “Your eyes light up like a slot machine whenever you see a deal,” Joyce told her. “Admit it, you’re an addict!”

Even if $300 per month is the actual, repeatable savings after taking spoilage and over-purchasing into account, I have to wonder how many hours she spends finding coupons. While some websites make this an easier chore, the act of extreme couponing can consume one’s life. While $300 per month on groceries is a good savings, if she takes the time she spends couponing and gets a job, even after taxes, she could earn more than $300 a month.

If she ceases couponing, the family would have a spare bedroom free because it wouldn’t be full of groceries for storage. If they so desired, they could earn $300 per month or more by renting the room to a tenant.

While extreme couponers are not hoarders, they often share are trait in common. Both hoarders and some extreme couponers acquire and don’t discard possessions that have limited value. If there’s a possibility of a product being used some time in the future, a couponer would not want to let that purchase go to waste. Spending less money per item to get more is a core couponing concept, but it results in over-purchasing and spoilage. Throwing unneeded food or products out would be a waste of money.

The article shouldn’t have claimed that this family’s extreme couponing results in a $300 savings each month. This math compares the over-purchasing price pre-coupon against post-coupon. If the student were not couponing, the family would be purchasing much less. If all this work results in just a $300 benefit to the checking account, if she wanted to contribute financially to her family sporting a six-figure income, she could be better off with a part-time job. The “hunt” and the “score” are so psychologically appealing, though, that the brain can easily rationalize extreme couponing despite better uses of money, time, and space.

I can’t wait for this craze to be over.

Photo: Walmart Stores
CNN Money

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Upromise Review

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Upromise takes the concept of earning cash back on everyday purchases and aligns this benefit with saving for college or paying off student loan debt. You buy groceries anyway; Upromise helps you earn cash back on what you buy and use that money for your education expenses, the education of a relative, or for any other purpose. You don’t even need a credit card.

I first starting using Upromise several years ago. BY registering my grocery story loyalty cards in the program, Upromise automatically adds cash back to my account regardless of how I paid for the items. With a cash back credit card, I earn the cash back offered by the credit card in addition to the Upromise bonus. Since I joined, the program has added many features to help save money, including the ability to link the Upromise account to a savings account, help you receive the cash back faster and earn more interest.

Earning cash back using Upromise

Turn Your Everyday Spending into College Savings!There are several ways to earn cash back with Upromise once you become a member.

  • You can earn cash back using Upromise by using the website’s shopping portal. Before you make any purchase, check Upromise to see if you can find what you’re looking for at a good price at one of the 600 online retailers that are partners with Upromise. This can provide you with a cash back rate of from 1% to 25% of your purchase price. The most popular stores are eBay, Target, Walmart, and JC Penney, but there are hundreds of categories of stores and many familiar faces, like The Home Depot, The Apple Store, Dell, Verizon Wireless, and Macy’s.
  • Another method of earning cash back with Upromise is to register your credit cards and debit cards — particularly any cards you use when you dine out at restaurants. When eating in a restaurant that participates in the Upromise program, you can earn up to 8% of your meal’s cost in the form of cash back rewards. After Upromise was introduced, a friend of mine who had signed up made a habit of paying for dinner at any large group outing, after collecting cash from the group of friends. Collecting cash back on a large meal can give your savings or 529 account a significant boost.
  • Unique to the Upromise program, you can enroll your grocery store, supermarket, and drug store loyalty cards to the program. Certain products, like Bounty paper towels, Fisher walnuts, and Bic shavers qualify for extra savings. In preparing for this review, I’m a little disappointed to see the list of items is much smaller than it used to be. Nevertheless, if you buy the products on the list, you can save money on deals beyond any coupons you have — a help to anyone aspiring to be an extreme couponer. You get cash back even if you buy your groceries with cash rather than a credit card.
  • Lastly, you can invite your friends to be included in your account. Any shopping they do through any of the above methods will result in the cash back being attributed to your account.

Upromise credit cards

Upromise teamed up with Bank of America to offer two credit cards designed to provide more cash back beyond what’s available above. One card focuses on gas and grocery card rewards and the other focuses on dining and grocery card rewards. With both cards, the cash back you earn, up to 10% extra cash back above the Upromise program, is applied to your Upromise account.

Redeeming cash back from Upromise

It used to be a hassle to get cash back from Upromise. You needed to have a 529 education investment account or a student loan managed by a particular loan servicer. There was a method of receiving a check for the cash back you had earned, but the instructions for requesting the check were hidden deep within the Upromise website.

Now Upromise is a part of the SLM Corporation, the company that also owns Sallie Mae Bank. When you transfer your cash back to Sallie Mae Bank’s high-yield savings account, your rewards earns interest and you can withdraw the money for any purpose you like. This way, those who aren’t saving for college for themselves or for a relative and those who aren’t paying down their student loan debt can take advantage of what Upromise offers.

These are the options:

  • Deposit your cash back into a 529 education investment account for you or a family member.
  • Transfer your cash back to your student loan to help pay off your debt.
  • Move your rewards to a Sallie Mae high-yield savings account.
  • Request your rewards to be sent to you in the form of a check.

Are the prices higher for Upromise shoppers?

One of the most frequently asked questions about shopping with Upromise and other cash back rewards portals is whether retailers artificially inflate the price of an item when they know you’re shopping through a cash back portal. The prices when you shop through the portal are the same prices you’d see when you don’t shop through the portal. Keep in mind that the stores that partner with Upromise may not have the lowest prices among their competitors. For example, Barnes & Noble is available through Upromise’s portal, but even when taking the cash back into consideration, you might be able to find the book you’re looking to buy for a better price on Amazon.com.

One could argue that as a whole, prices of products increase for all customers as a result of cash back programs; this, and other increased costs for merchants like credit card processing fees, means stores need to charge higher prices to maintain a certain level of profit. There’s no specific study I’m aware of that identifies this effect specifically for cash back programs. Regardless of the impact of rewards programs on the overall economy, shopping on Walmart.com with Upromise is better for a consumer than shopping on Walmart.com without Upromise.

Enrolling in Upromise

It’s free to join Upromise, so if you’re interested, sign up today.

Turn Your Everyday Spending into College Savings!

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Avoid These Big Money Wasters

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CNN is offering a compilation of the ten biggest money wasters. These items would be obvious to most loyal Consumerism Commentary readers, yet it would not be out of the question to disagree with some of these money-wasters in some circumstances.

ATM fees. You shouldn’t be surprised that banks will charge multiple fees for the same transaction. If you use an ATM that isn’t operated by the bank that houses your account, the ATM owners will often charge for the transaction — as much as $5, Chase’s new ATM fee — and your bank could charge you for the transaction as well. This is why, even though I strongly recommend high-yield savings accounts that are often operated by online-only banks, it doesn’t hurt to have your primary checking account at a bank that has convenient ATM locations. While many online-only and some traditional banks will reimburse you for ATM fees charged by another banks, receiving this reimbursement could be a hassle.

I visit an ATM about once every two weeks. For me, I save $130 a year by not patronizing an ATM that charges $5. According to the source quoted by CNN, many people could stand to save $500 a year by ensuring they visit free ATMs.

Lottery tickets. For the most part, people who play the lottery tend to have a lower socio-economic status, perhaps those who think that winning the lottery is the only hope of financial freedom. The odds are stacked against winning a lottery jackpot, and if the money used to buy lottery tickets was set aside in an interest-bearing account, there is a better chance for strong finances later in life. That doesn’t stop office pools from buying lottery tickets when the jackpot is sufficiently high, however, and in some cases, income from lotteries run by states can be put to some good.

According to CNN’s source, typical lottery participants spend $520 to $1,040 a year on tickets. Another downside to lottery tickets: buying lottery tickets on your credit card can reduce your credit score.

Gourmet coffee. I’m not a coffee drinker, but I can understand why people pay $1,000 a year in order to help wake themselves at a certain time. The obvious resolution would be to save money by switching from the more expensive brands to coffee you brew yourself. This is the basis of David Bach’s Latte Factor, which illustrates how incremental savings can lead to significant increases over time.

Cigarettes. How much money you could save by quitting smoking depends on how much you smoke and how much it costs to buy each pack. In New York, a heavy smoker could save a whopping $13,000 a year! That’s just on the cost of buying the cigarettes; if you quit smoking, doctors say you will live a healthier life and a reduced risk of cancer, so being a non-smoker will result in lower health care bills over your lifetime, as well as lower life insurance premiums in some cases.

Infomercial impulse buys. According to CNN’s source, most infomercial purchases go unused. It’s not just infomercials — any impulse purchase or anything you buy that you end up not using is an unnecessary cost. I have some kitchen appliances that I have not yet used, though I hope to some day. I didn’t buy these from infomercials, but the result is the same. One way to beat this is to stop yourself from making the purchase without a night — or perhaps a week or a month — to think about it. I ended up not purchasing many things I thought I needed, after deciding to wait some time before completing the purchase.

Brand-name groceries. In many cases store-brand or generic items are of the same quality as brand-name items in the grocery store. I’m not a fan of all generic items. For example, I prefer Cotonelle over store-brand toilet paper, because I have yet to find a satisfying alternative. But rather than blindly go with name brands, I buy cheaper alternatives to discover where I am willing to compromise — if any compromise is necessary — to get buy with a lower price.

Eating out. This is a category of spending I’ve struggled with. (See my comment about unused kitchen appliances above.) For the most part, I have only myself to feed, and the healthier groceries are designed for multiple servings. As a result, I either overeat or buy the less-healthy options. I’ve improved my habits a bit, but this is something I still struggle with. Furthermore, when I spend time with my girlfriend, we often find it easier to go out to eat rather than cook for ourselves.

CNN also mentions bars and alcohol in this category. While I’m not interested in bar-hopping, the wine I may buy with dinner is often much more expensive than buying wine from a store. It’s not uncommon to pay $12 a glass when an entire bottle of wine that is just as good costs half as much.

Unused gym memberships. I haven’t yet fallen into this trap, but I know many who have. For about a month, I was getting the exercise I needed by running every other day, but as the weather turned cold, I let this habit slip. Now I plan to go back to my previous state of activity, and I’ve considered joining a gym in addition. I haven’t pulled the trigger because I haven’t been able to convince myself that I would use the membership to its fullest extent. This is similar to my experience with Netflix; I joined the subscription service to receive movies by mail after a referral from a friend, but I didn’t have the time to watch movies or TV series as often as I thought I would.

Daily internet deals. CNN comes out on my side of the argument regarding social coupons and group coupons. There are some cases where the deals work out well. In fact, I used one with my girlfriend’s family this past weekend to see a movie that didn’t interest me. But the key to these deals is that you pay up front for the deal and claim the items — in this case, movie tickets — later. Many people never claim the items even though they’ve already paid for the deal. And, as I’ve mentioned before, sometimes the deals aren’t that great in the first place.

Bundled cable or phone services. The reason these waste money is because you often result in paying for a service you don’t need. It starts innocently with bundled old-fashioned phone service, where you would have to buy dozens of features you didn’t need just to get voice mail service or call-waiting; now, the communications companies want you to buy voice, television and cable services together in order to qualify for the best prices. With cell phones, chances are you’re paying for minutes you’ll never use, so it helps to downgrade your plan to one that fits your actual usage patterns. If you don’t need smartphone features and don’t talk much, pre-paid plans could end up saving you money, but many middle class households don’t consider them because they’re marketed towards lower income families.

CNN Money

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