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Today on the Consumerism Commentary Podcast, Tom Dziubek talks to Jenny Kerr, founder of The Jenny Pincher.

Jenny talks with Tom about how married women can better prepare themselves financially for a divorce. Some of the items she discusses are keeping individual checking accounts, knowing where the money is and being prepared to start a new job.

Consumerism Commentary Podcast
Protecting Individual Finances in a Marriage: S06E15 / 172

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Table of contents

Consumerism Commentary Podcast[00:00] Introduction from Tom Dziubek
[00:38] Interview with Jenny Kerr
[00:49] Jenny’s inspiration for article
[03:15] Individual bank accounts
[05:34] The need for a joint account
[06:13] Funding the individual account
[07:33] The individual account for emergency access
[08:57] Know where the money is
[10:27] Keeping your resume current
[12:06] Part-time work
[14:21] Understanding the necessities
[15:24] Knowing what benefits are tied to your spouse
[16:40] Identifying policies your spouse could benefit from
[19:13] End

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Seventeen years ago I was nervous about what was about to transpire. At this time, although I had been away from home for extended periods of time, I was about to leave for college. Honestly, I thought I might not have been able to handle the responsibilities and the new social environment. Rather than living at home and attending a local college like a number of my high school classmates, I was preparing to live on the campus of a major university in another state.

I should have known that I had little to worry about. But there are a few things I wish I had known — or at least thought about — before entering college.

Pay attention to your expenses. For me, my expenses were fairly controlled. On campus, I had a meal plan. My breakfasts, lunches and dinners were paid for in advance and rolled into my tuition and board expenses. In order to eat in one of the many dining halls, all I had to do was flash my student identification card. This meal plan entitled me to a certain number of meals per week in addition to an allotment of “points” which could be used to purchase snacks at other times.

The meals and points expired at the end of each semester, and the college reminded students that “it is [their] responsibility to budget [their] points over the course of the semester/session.” I don’t recall doing any budgeting. I may have known at the time how many meals and points were available to me, but I didn’t do any planning. I ate when I felt like it and bought snacks and other things at the university’s shops when I desired. There was an option to add points to the account, and I’m sure I did this as needed.

Who is paying for college? My undergraduate education was paid for by my parents, a partial scholarship, and loans in my name. While you should not waste your time by failing any courses, this is even more important if your parents or other parties are paying for your education. Wasting your money is a problem, but wasting other people’s money is disrespectful. If you fail a class required for your degree, you will have to take that class again, paying for it twice. It’s not worth it, particularly since it’s usually difficult to outright fail a class. Paying for college yourself supposedly gives you ownership of your academic decisions while in school, but if you’re in a situation where you don’t have to worry about affording your own tuition, then consider yourself lucky.

Work shouldn’t interfere with studies. I am quite grateful I didn’t have to pay for most of my undergraduate education. It allowed me to focus on my education and extracurricular resume-building activities in my field rather than focusing on earning income to afford tuition. I did find a few jobs, however. I stayed on campus for winter and summer sessions to take more classes, but with a lighter load during these in-between semesters, I worked in the department library to earn some extra money. I also served as a web consultant in my department, designing their first departmental web site and teaching professors how to publish their own sites for a measly ten dollars an hour.

These jobs provided me with a little extra cash. I probably spent it just as fast as I was earning it, however.

Have the right bank accounts. It’s essential to establish bank accounts in your name. Free student checking accounts can help you access your money whether at home or at school, and an account that has branches nearby to both locations is one way to ensure your parents can add to your account easily if they are willing to do so. College is a great opportunity to get into positive financial habits early, like moving extra money from your checking account to a high-yield online savings account at regular intervals. This is a great destination for any extra cash you earn from odd jobs, though in college there will always be the temptation to spend money on enhancing the social aspect of the college experience.

Open a Roth IRA. I wish I had known about Roth IRAs when I started college. It would have been impossible for me to do so without a crystal ball or some other form of premonition. These retirement accounts were brought into existence while I was enrolled in the university, but I did not hear of it until a few years after I had graduated. If I had known that I could put money away for retirement in a tax-advantaged account while I was in such a low tax bracket, I might have taken advantage of the opportunity. Then again, I might not have. It’s hard to imagine retirement before you’ve officially begun a career, but it’s harder to argue with long-term investing in the stock market. If I had invested $1,000 in the S&P 500 index on October 11, 1996, it would be worth $1,825 now (not including reinvested dividends) and much more by the time I retire.

Like many, I played the “stock market game” in elementary school, learning how investing works in some respects by using fake accounts to trade. Of course, trading was a different worls when I was young, in which stock market information like prices were only available in newspaper listings. By the time I entered college, I probably knew only a little more about investing, but my interests lay elsewhere. I did not concern myself with the idea of having a secure financial future.

Avoid credit cards. The credit card companies are vultures on college campuses. I remember when I first arrived on campus as a freshman for orientation, one week before the upperclassmen. The companies set tables outside the dorms with applications and free tee-shirts, enticing subfashionable freshmen like myself to sign up. Although I escaped relatively unscathed, having a credit card without a job is asking for trouble. The Credit CARD Act limits card issuers’ abilities to market to students, but the sharks are still out there.

One particularly sneaky aspect of college-geared credit cards is the introductory offer. The 0% APR on purchases deal sounds great, but what they don’t explain is that you must pay off your entire balance on the card before the promotional period ends, otherwise you could owe back interest as if the 0% APR promotion never existed. It’s always explained in the fine print, but if you have an appointment for orientation, chances are you just want to sign the form and grab the tee-shirt.

Forbes offers these thirteen financial tips for students entering college for the first time.

  • Use credit cards sparingly
  • Pay all credit card balances in full
  • Get the best deal on a checking account
  • Start saving
  • Keep track of your spending
  • Set a limit on entertainment
  • Shop at second-hand stores
  • Keep an eye out for free money
  • Get a part-time job with tips
  • Walk or ride a bike — don’t drive
  • Avoid the tax on stupidity
  • Look for student discounts
  • Don’t eat out all the time

Tavis Smiley has a number of similar suggestions. He suggests making a budget, shopping smart, and learning to cook.

Had I known what I know now about compounding interest and the tendency for the stock market to increase over time, not just theoretically but from experience, I’d be in a better financial position right now. And it’s not about having more money, it’s about having more options for doing the things I like to do.

From a psychological standpoint, it’s unlikely that college students, even after receiving information about making healthy financial choices, will change behavior. That’s just a nature of age. When I was entering college, while I felt like an adult, perhaps subconsciously I knew that I had a few years remaining before I needed to concern myself with adult issues. I wasn’t concerned with retirement because I figured there would be enough time after earning my degree to worry about the future. In many respects, this is true. In college, it’s good to hang on to the last few years of childhood and limited responsibilities. While my finances would have been in better shape earlier on, it’s hard to look back at my life and wish I had taken a different approach.

After all, my financial failings in and after college led to my interest in personal finance, and not much later, the start of this website.

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Forbes, Tavis Smiley

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“Buy now! A $2,000 value, only $79.95! This week only!”

What is value, really? When a product is on sale, why do we say that product is worth more than we pay? It’s psychological. We’re getting a deal. We presume the company is taking a loss in order to bring us a special offer, figuring that the company’s real goal is to get us to buy more. We think the company wants to sell more products with a profit to make up for the loss leader. That’s possible in many cases, but if the buyer is convinced that a deal is a good value, then it doesn’t matter whether it leads to more purchases.

A product’s value is whatever customers are willing to pay. If that’s $2,000, that’s the value. If sales aren’t moving well at $2,000 but there’s a market for the product at $79.95, I would say that the lower price, among the two options, is the canonical value. This concept has another level; there is a simple formula one can use that could take the frequency of buyers at a variety of price points into account to determine an overall average value.

When sellers advertise a product at the lower price point with a marketing tactic like the one used in this first line of this article, I tend to take the opposite viewpoint. I even feel bad for those who paid $2,000 for a product that is worth $79.95. And if customers who purchased the product for $2,000 find out that the identical product is now sold at the lower price point, I imagine they would be upset. They might feel swindled, and they wouldn’t entirely be wrong.

Prices for products change all the time. Today’s latest technology always costs a premium when compared to next year’s price for the same item. With technology, this premium is for the cachet of being an early adopter or the privilege of having the latest innovative product. With this rationalization, early adopters don’t have a problem with a product being sold later for a lower price. Most products don’t have this sort of psychological premium, though.

This is why I have a difficult time dealing with a lot of sales. I am fine paying a lower price for a product, and I’m often fine paying a higher price for a product if I think it’s a good value. I’m just not a fan of marketing messages that try to convince shoppers of the “real value” of a product.

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When unemployment remains high, companies are making the most of their staff without hiring or promoting. They don’t have to in today’s job market. When they are dissatisfied with the added responsibilities, employees are unable to find new jobs or believe that it’s not worthwhile to spend the effort looking right now. Employers have the advantage today, and to save the company money, will squeeze productivity out as much as possible.

I’ve left many jobs in the past, and I’ve seen an interesting pattern: the company I leave behind often hired two people to replace me, regardless of my position and my former responsibilities. With my latest move in December, my department was unable to hire anyone due to a directive from executive-level management. My responsibilities were doled out among those who already had full workloads. I’ve stayed in contact with a few of my co-workers, and the past month, a period of year-end financial reporting, was more stressful than it could have been had I stayed at the company.

If there’s any consolation for them, it might be that I left before the company gave out bonuses, so my share of the bonus pool has most likely been distributed among those who are shouldering my former responsibilities. The amount of that bonus is most likely so low that it doesn’t provide much of an incentive, however.

Fortune Magazine offers several tips for dealing with added responsibilities without the promotion or pay increase to match.

1. Prioritize your work. Consult with your management to ensure you focus on the most important tasks and projects. You may find that some of the least important elements can be eliminated. When I was working at the company, when I took on more responsibilities, I eliminated unnecessary tasks as much as possible, and functions that once locked an employee’s time for four weeks every quarter were reduced to two weeks or less.

2. Ask for more training. In an employment environment where fewer people are asked to take on more responsibilities, finding the time for training can be difficult. When I left in December, my department was planning to institute a requirement of a certain amount of training hours each year. This is going to lead to training for the sake of meeting the requirement, and possibly some wasted time. Certain types of training can help you justify a promotion in the future, so consider the type of training that will be most beneficial to you.

3. Enhance your resume. Forbes provides an example pertaining to a degree. If your peers all have MBAs and you don’t, consider completing the degree to keep your resume up to date. I don’t know if MBA degrees are as valuable as they once were, but if you intend on staying with th same group of people, you don’t want to be left behind or overlooked because your resume does not have the same features as those you may compete with for positions and raises.

4. Give your boss a deadline. Make it clear that after three or six months with your new responsibilities without additional compensation or consideration for a promotion, you will want to meet with your boss to discuss performance again. From the boss’s point of view, raises and promotions don’t come automatically with added responsibilities, they come after employees show that they can handle their increased workload. Let your boss know that you’re willing to accept it, but you want to review your performance every three months, more often than your official performance review.

5. Make your pitch for a promotion. Some of the people I worked with at my former company were not interested in moving up in the ranks, not interested in promotions. They may have worked in the same department for decades and are satisfied with the small annual pay increases, and they shied away from or even refused more responsibility when they could. One co-worker even took a demotion in order to avoid additional responsibilities. Those who are unsatisfied with their level or pay need to make the case for why they deserve to move up, and success with added responsibilities may not be enough. For example, quantify how much money you’ve brought into the company or how much you’ve saved the company.

Have you experienced more responsibilities at work recently without the corresponding promotion or pay increase? How are you handling the situation?

Fortune Magazine

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