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		<title>By: Jerry Kindall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Kindall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in Seattle and therefore rarely order from Amazon, as the sales tax makes such orders ~10% more expensive than out-of-state competitors. (An exception is food -- no sales tax on that.) If those competitors had to charge Washington state sales tax, we would probably order from Amazon more often.

I know some locals who do order from Amazon all the time and I&#039;m always like, wait, why would you do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in Seattle and therefore rarely order from Amazon, as the sales tax makes such orders ~10% more expensive than out-of-state competitors. (An exception is food &#8212; no sales tax on that.) If those competitors had to charge Washington state sales tax, we would probably order from Amazon more often.</p>
<p>I know some locals who do order from Amazon all the time and I&#8217;m always like, wait, why would you do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the brick and morter stores should quit complaining about how they are losing sales just because of taxes.  I don&#039;t shop online just because of taxes (collected or not) - I shop online because I am from a rural state that doesn&#039;t have any selections and charges huge markups because they are the only business in town.  How would a tax like this be enforced anyhow?  In my state - each city has a different tax rate depending upon what local taxes were passed by the city council on top of the state sales tax rate.  It could be the standard state rate or higher.  I happen to live in the country.  If I buy items in town - I get charged their higher sales tax rate but if I can have them delivered - I get charged the lesser state sales tax rate (if I ask for it and typically only for building supplies).  When Amazon is trying to assess how much to charge me - how are they going to determine it? Based off of my zip code of a different city?   I try to shop locally however even national department stores have only a meager selection of items.  When there isn&#039;t any competition, selection, or a availability of items - I&#039;m going to shop online.  Taxes or no taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the brick and morter stores should quit complaining about how they are losing sales just because of taxes.  I don&#8217;t shop online just because of taxes (collected or not) &#8211; I shop online because I am from a rural state that doesn&#8217;t have any selections and charges huge markups because they are the only business in town.  How would a tax like this be enforced anyhow?  In my state &#8211; each city has a different tax rate depending upon what local taxes were passed by the city council on top of the state sales tax rate.  It could be the standard state rate or higher.  I happen to live in the country.  If I buy items in town &#8211; I get charged their higher sales tax rate but if I can have them delivered &#8211; I get charged the lesser state sales tax rate (if I ask for it and typically only for building supplies).  When Amazon is trying to assess how much to charge me &#8211; how are they going to determine it? Based off of my zip code of a different city?   I try to shop locally however even national department stores have only a meager selection of items.  When there isn&#8217;t any competition, selection, or a availability of items &#8211; I&#8217;m going to shop online.  Taxes or no taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many taxes.
We in Australia are just as confused with the number of different types of taxes to be paid. Although I agree with Financial Samurai I know that certain taxes are almost inevitable.
They keep politicians employed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many taxes.<br />
We in Australia are just as confused with the number of different types of taxes to be paid. Although I agree with Financial Samurai I know that certain taxes are almost inevitable.<br />
They keep politicians employed!</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/should-all-amazon-shoppers-pay-sales-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-201110</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta say, because I absolutely ABHOR paying any taxes, I simply don&#039;t buy anything, or wait until I&#039;m in a state with no sales tax, or lower sales tax to even consider spending anything.

Amazon should either charge everybody a sales tax, or nobody a sales tax.  Keep it consistent and fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta say, because I absolutely ABHOR paying any taxes, I simply don&#8217;t buy anything, or wait until I&#8217;m in a state with no sales tax, or lower sales tax to even consider spending anything.</p>
<p>Amazon should either charge everybody a sales tax, or nobody a sales tax.  Keep it consistent and fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Apex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nearly every country that has instituted a VAT has altered their income tax system to make it MORE progressive.  The reason for this is that the VAT is considered to be a regressive form of taxation.  Everyone pays the VAT regardless of income level and the poor pay a much higher percent of their income because they need to spend much more of their money on the necessities.

Thus to compensate for this the income tax is made more progressive.

If the VAT is instituted in the U.S. it is likely to come with a decrease in income tax rates at the lower levels and leaving the upper level brackets in place unchanged.  This is what will make it palatable to the masses.

The GOP has been arguing for their national sales tax for a decade now.  They just might get it.  But not at all how they said they wanted it.  They should have keep their mouths shut.  The idea that we were ever going to abolish the income tax and replace it with a sales or VAT tax was niave at best.  

15-20 years from now I suspect we will have both a VAT or national sales tax and a more progressive income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly every country that has instituted a VAT has altered their income tax system to make it MORE progressive.  The reason for this is that the VAT is considered to be a regressive form of taxation.  Everyone pays the VAT regardless of income level and the poor pay a much higher percent of their income because they need to spend much more of their money on the necessities.</p>
<p>Thus to compensate for this the income tax is made more progressive.</p>
<p>If the VAT is instituted in the U.S. it is likely to come with a decrease in income tax rates at the lower levels and leaving the upper level brackets in place unchanged.  This is what will make it palatable to the masses.</p>
<p>The GOP has been arguing for their national sales tax for a decade now.  They just might get it.  But not at all how they said they wanted it.  They should have keep their mouths shut.  The idea that we were ever going to abolish the income tax and replace it with a sales or VAT tax was niave at best.  </p>
<p>15-20 years from now I suspect we will have both a VAT or national sales tax and a more progressive income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: John DeFlumeri Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>John DeFlumeri Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The total price, including shipping and tax is what I base my purchases on.

John DeFlumeri Jr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The total price, including shipping and tax is what I base my purchases on.</p>
<p>John DeFlumeri Jr</p>
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		<title>By: Investor Junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investor Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is time to tell Internet merchants to start collecting and remitting local sales tax, just like the corner store has to. Stop pretending that the transaction is “tax-free” because Use tax is still due.&quot;

David,
This might be easy for the large companies like Amazon, but what about for the small online merchants?? Watch e-commerce implode, move at a snails pace and many small businesses go under if this becomes enforced.  In addition, do forget about prices overall will go higher because of the additional fees businesses must perform to track sales tax.  Once again the small business owner will get screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is time to tell Internet merchants to start collecting and remitting local sales tax, just like the corner store has to. Stop pretending that the transaction is “tax-free” because Use tax is still due.&#8221;</p>
<p>David,<br />
This might be easy for the large companies like Amazon, but what about for the small online merchants?? Watch e-commerce implode, move at a snails pace and many small businesses go under if this becomes enforced.  In addition, do forget about prices overall will go higher because of the additional fees businesses must perform to track sales tax.  Once again the small business owner will get screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Karasewski</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/should-all-amazon-shoppers-pay-sales-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-201105</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Karasewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t think you pay enough in taxes, you&#039;re free not to include deductions that you&#039;re allowed on your income taxes. Go ahead and claim zero exemptions and deductions so you can better finance the government in this tough economy. Alternatively, drive faster, fund the state in speeding ticket fines.

Personally, I feel like I pay plenty already, I&#039;m not going out of my way to encourage any more taxes on myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t think you pay enough in taxes, you&#8217;re free not to include deductions that you&#8217;re allowed on your income taxes. Go ahead and claim zero exemptions and deductions so you can better finance the government in this tough economy. Alternatively, drive faster, fund the state in speeding ticket fines.</p>
<p>Personally, I feel like I pay plenty already, I&#8217;m not going out of my way to encourage any more taxes on myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading a lot about this subject on main stream sites, most are which liberal in nature, and they always seem to hint that it is Amazon&#039;s duty to pay taxes.  I refuse to believe that though.  Whenever this subject comes up I always think back to a quote by Judge Learned Hand (yup, that&#039;s his real name):

&quot;Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one&#039;s taxes. Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone
does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands.&quot;  

If the States believe that Amazon should collect sales taxes, sue them!  Win in Court and force them to collect taxes.  Why haven&#039;t all states done it yet? Cause they aren&#039;t sure they&#039;ll win...why won&#039;t they win?  Because the legality is unclear at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading a lot about this subject on main stream sites, most are which liberal in nature, and they always seem to hint that it is Amazon&#8217;s duty to pay taxes.  I refuse to believe that though.  Whenever this subject comes up I always think back to a quote by Judge Learned Hand (yup, that&#8217;s his real name):</p>
<p>&#8220;Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one&#8217;s taxes. Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone<br />
does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands.&#8221;  </p>
<p>If the States believe that Amazon should collect sales taxes, sue them!  Win in Court and force them to collect taxes.  Why haven&#8217;t all states done it yet? Cause they aren&#8217;t sure they&#8217;ll win&#8230;why won&#8217;t they win?  Because the legality is unclear at best.</p>
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		<title>By: David Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your other readers are correct in pointing out that the sales tax burden is solely the obligation of the consumer, not the merchant.  In traditional retail outlets (a.k.a. &quot;bricks-n-mortar&quot; stores) the retailer collects the sales tax at the point of purchase, and remits those proceeds directly to the state.

Your readers are also correct in pointing out that even though the sales tax is not being collected by Internet merchants (without bricks-n-mortar presence in NJ) when you purchase, you are still obligated to report and remit equivalent use tax in NJ.  These are not new taxes. Sales and Use Tax Laws were substantially adopted in New Jersey in 1966, before that in New Jersey you only paid sales tax on gasoline, tobacco products and alcoholic beverages.

Finally, congress is preparing to debate this exact subject!  The Main Street Fairness Act will soon be introduced before congress to address this issue – that out-of-state or “Remote Sellers” should be required to collect and remit local sales tax.

The only reason they don’t right now is that in 1967 &amp; 1992 the issue of Remote Sellers came before the US Supreme Court (in the context of mail order catalog merchants).  In both opinions, the court agreed that remote sellers should collect and remit local sales taxes, but they also conceded that requiring remote sellers to keep track of 4,000+ local tax jurisdictions would be too difficult.

With contemporary companies like Amazon.com and services like iTunes, no one questions their technical ability to keep track of many millions of transactions per quarter. Further, with the successes of the Internet over the last 25 years, it is time to revisit how difficult it is for remote sellers to manage a mere 10,000+ local jurisdictions.

It is time to tell Internet merchants to start collecting and remitting local sales tax, just like the corner store has to. Stop pretending that the transaction is “tax-free” because Use tax is still due.

Your local sales tax should be collected &amp; remitted for you by all merchants, so businesses and individuals don’t have to meticulously keep track of all out-of-state transactions.

R. David L. Campbell
Chief Executive
The Federal Tax Authority (http://Fed-Tax.net)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your other readers are correct in pointing out that the sales tax burden is solely the obligation of the consumer, not the merchant.  In traditional retail outlets (a.k.a. &#8220;bricks-n-mortar&#8221; stores) the retailer collects the sales tax at the point of purchase, and remits those proceeds directly to the state.</p>
<p>Your readers are also correct in pointing out that even though the sales tax is not being collected by Internet merchants (without bricks-n-mortar presence in NJ) when you purchase, you are still obligated to report and remit equivalent use tax in NJ.  These are not new taxes. Sales and Use Tax Laws were substantially adopted in New Jersey in 1966, before that in New Jersey you only paid sales tax on gasoline, tobacco products and alcoholic beverages.</p>
<p>Finally, congress is preparing to debate this exact subject!  The Main Street Fairness Act will soon be introduced before congress to address this issue – that out-of-state or “Remote Sellers” should be required to collect and remit local sales tax.</p>
<p>The only reason they don’t right now is that in 1967 &amp; 1992 the issue of Remote Sellers came before the US Supreme Court (in the context of mail order catalog merchants).  In both opinions, the court agreed that remote sellers should collect and remit local sales taxes, but they also conceded that requiring remote sellers to keep track of 4,000+ local tax jurisdictions would be too difficult.</p>
<p>With contemporary companies like Amazon.com and services like iTunes, no one questions their technical ability to keep track of many millions of transactions per quarter. Further, with the successes of the Internet over the last 25 years, it is time to revisit how difficult it is for remote sellers to manage a mere 10,000+ local jurisdictions.</p>
<p>It is time to tell Internet merchants to start collecting and remitting local sales tax, just like the corner store has to. Stop pretending that the transaction is “tax-free” because Use tax is still due.</p>
<p>Your local sales tax should be collected &amp; remitted for you by all merchants, so businesses and individuals don’t have to meticulously keep track of all out-of-state transactions.</p>
<p>R. David L. Campbell<br />
Chief Executive<br />
The Federal Tax Authority (<a href="http://Fed-Tax.net" rel="nofollow">http://Fed-Tax.net</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Dubary Brea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dubary Brea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already pay the taxes cause I live in NY state (specifically NYC)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already pay the taxes cause I live in NY state (specifically NYC)</p>
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		<title>By: LeanLifeCoach</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeanLifeCoach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should all be proud to have the opportunity to live in this country AND pay taxes. The bigger question is how our taxes are being used. 

There should be parity in tax laws. (I can&#039;t believe I wrote that!) In the end, tax rates have never factored into my purchase decisions, quality of service and support after the sale play a much bigger role. 

Even if Amazon did have to collect state taxes they are likely to still be a lower cost alternative due to their Lean Management approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all be proud to have the opportunity to live in this country AND pay taxes. The bigger question is how our taxes are being used. </p>
<p>There should be parity in tax laws. (I can&#8217;t believe I wrote that!) In the end, tax rates have never factored into my purchase decisions, quality of service and support after the sale play a much bigger role. </p>
<p>Even if Amazon did have to collect state taxes they are likely to still be a lower cost alternative due to their Lean Management approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should pay the tax when we purchase the item.</description>
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		<title>By: Ein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The full tax sales bill to states are paid half by the retailer and half by the customer. When you pay $0.70 in sales tax for a $9.99 DVD, the store pays $0.70 cents, too.&quot; 

I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s different in different states, but I&#039;ve never heard of this.  If a retailer sells $9.99 of stuff and owes $0.70, the retailer pays the $0.70 to the state, but it&#039;s covered by the $0.70 he should&#039;ve collected from the customer.  The retailer is not paying sales tax out of his own pocket and the state doesn&#039;t get $1.40.  Additionally, the retailer would not have paid sales tax on the items when he purchased them from the supplier for resale (at least in the states I&#039;m familiar with).

I&#039;m an accountant, and admittedly only started being involved with the filing of sales tax earlier this year, but I believe this article is wrong on this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The full tax sales bill to states are paid half by the retailer and half by the customer. When you pay $0.70 in sales tax for a $9.99 DVD, the store pays $0.70 cents, too.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s different in different states, but I&#8217;ve never heard of this.  If a retailer sells $9.99 of stuff and owes $0.70, the retailer pays the $0.70 to the state, but it&#8217;s covered by the $0.70 he should&#8217;ve collected from the customer.  The retailer is not paying sales tax out of his own pocket and the state doesn&#8217;t get $1.40.  Additionally, the retailer would not have paid sales tax on the items when he purchased them from the supplier for resale (at least in the states I&#8217;m familiar with).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an accountant, and admittedly only started being involved with the filing of sales tax earlier this year, but I believe this article is wrong on this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Virginia now and received that unpleasant surprise when I did my state taxes.  I happen to keep records of all my purchases so I could go back and figure out how much I owed.  I was pretty pissed though because I was doing the same thing, thinking I&#039;m saving money by shopping at certain online sites.  I would rather everyone just collect it through their websites instead of having to do it ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Virginia now and received that unpleasant surprise when I did my state taxes.  I happen to keep records of all my purchases so I could go back and figure out how much I owed.  I was pretty pissed though because I was doing the same thing, thinking I&#8217;m saving money by shopping at certain online sites.  I would rather everyone just collect it through their websites instead of having to do it ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Investor Junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investor Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And the instructions specifically say you are liable for it.&quot;  

Ah yes one of the problems running a financial web site.  Disclosing too much can be financially hazardous to your wealth!

Don&#039;t think the government can&#039;t use what you say on the web?  Think again as it already has happened..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125132627009861985.html

I would watch what you say on the Internets.  This not only applies to Flexo but this applies to anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the instructions specifically say you are liable for it.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Ah yes one of the problems running a financial web site.  Disclosing too much can be financially hazardous to your wealth!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think the government can&#8217;t use what you say on the web?  Think again as it already has happened..</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125132627009861985.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125132627009861985.html</a></p>
<p>I would watch what you say on the Internets.  This not only applies to Flexo but this applies to anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: juggler314</title>
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		<dc:creator>juggler314</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are also wrong about remitting sales tax. It&#039;s not that *you* as a resident of NJ don&#039;t have to pay sales tax on items bought outside the state. It&#039;s just that amazon isn&#039;t required to collect it. I just checked and yes the NJ 1040 has a line for use tax. And the instructions specifically say you are liable for it.

If you want to lie to the state that&#039;s fine. You almost definitely wont get caught, but should you ever be audited...they may make an issue of it. And in particular...since you&#039;ve now publicly stated you don&#039;t pay your use tax on purpose - it&#039;s much worse, it could have been an oversight, but now you have basically admitted to fraud.

It&#039;s probably not a good idea to advise other folks to do that as well...

I&#039;m not going to check all the states, but I find it hard to believe there are many that don&#039;t require you to report out of state taxable purchases.

And the issue of how to deal with the many, many, many tax jurisdictions in this country has been debunked already. There are already large organizations that collect tax nationwide (in particular the USPS collects taxes in every jurisdiction and given it&#039;s a government agency could easily pass that info on). I mean it&#039;s the 21st century, we have computers, a small table containing all the possible taxes is not really that difficult. Nor is remitting the taxes. You setup a GL code for each states tax, keep it all in a tax to be paid account, voila.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are also wrong about remitting sales tax. It&#8217;s not that *you* as a resident of NJ don&#8217;t have to pay sales tax on items bought outside the state. It&#8217;s just that amazon isn&#8217;t required to collect it. I just checked and yes the NJ 1040 has a line for use tax. And the instructions specifically say you are liable for it.</p>
<p>If you want to lie to the state that&#8217;s fine. You almost definitely wont get caught, but should you ever be audited&#8230;they may make an issue of it. And in particular&#8230;since you&#8217;ve now publicly stated you don&#8217;t pay your use tax on purpose &#8211; it&#8217;s much worse, it could have been an oversight, but now you have basically admitted to fraud.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably not a good idea to advise other folks to do that as well&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to check all the states, but I find it hard to believe there are many that don&#8217;t require you to report out of state taxable purchases.</p>
<p>And the issue of how to deal with the many, many, many tax jurisdictions in this country has been debunked already. There are already large organizations that collect tax nationwide (in particular the USPS collects taxes in every jurisdiction and given it&#8217;s a government agency could easily pass that info on). I mean it&#8217;s the 21st century, we have computers, a small table containing all the possible taxes is not really that difficult. Nor is remitting the taxes. You setup a GL code for each states tax, keep it all in a tax to be paid account, voila.</p>
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		<title>By: Investor Junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investor Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Only a federal tax would be workable, I think. This opens up a big can of worms.&quot;  

You are referring to a VAT and it has been recently discussed by our government.  I&#039;m all for a VAT, only IF we go with a flat income tax.  Otherwise we are taxed out the yin/yang.  When discussing VAT there was no mention of changing our progressive tax code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Only a federal tax would be workable, I think. This opens up a big can of worms.&#8221;  </p>
<p>You are referring to a VAT and it has been recently discussed by our government.  I&#8217;m all for a VAT, only IF we go with a flat income tax.  Otherwise we are taxed out the yin/yang.  When discussing VAT there was no mention of changing our progressive tax code.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Murin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Murin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The full tax sales bill to states are paid half by the retailer and half by the customer.&quot;  This is not correct - there is no hidden component to state sales tax. The merchant collects the full tax and remits it to the state. I believe you are confusing Social Security tax which is paid by both the employer and employee.

Don&#039;t forget that sales tax does not apply to all items. For example, clothing in NJ (my home state as well) is exempt. Collecting sales tax for multiple jurisdictions is not easy and an entity that does not have a presence in a particular state is not under that state&#039;s jurisdiction. This is important - if there was an obligation to collect the taxes - there are rules for remitting the $$$ to the particular state and penalties for not doing so. If there is no jurisdiction then there is no proper mechanism for enforcement. Only a federal tax would be workable, I think. This opens up a big can of worms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The full tax sales bill to states are paid half by the retailer and half by the customer.&#8221;  This is not correct &#8211; there is no hidden component to state sales tax. The merchant collects the full tax and remits it to the state. I believe you are confusing Social Security tax which is paid by both the employer and employee.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that sales tax does not apply to all items. For example, clothing in NJ (my home state as well) is exempt. Collecting sales tax for multiple jurisdictions is not easy and an entity that does not have a presence in a particular state is not under that state&#8217;s jurisdiction. This is important &#8211; if there was an obligation to collect the taxes &#8211; there are rules for remitting the $$$ to the particular state and penalties for not doing so. If there is no jurisdiction then there is no proper mechanism for enforcement. Only a federal tax would be workable, I think. This opens up a big can of worms.</p>
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		<title>By: Investor Junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investor Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry give it time eventually ALL online retailers will have to pay state tax in some fashion.  OR worse the VAT tax that&#039;s discussed.  The days of no tax is coming to an end.  I also live in NY. Ugh. I&#039;m not sure why Amazon would bother to collect even though other retailers like Newegg do not.  How come the states don&#039;t try to collect on regular purchases (offline) out of state but target online? Answer: because it&#039;s easy to track.  I&#039;m surprised the states don&#039;t go through the credit card companies to find out who&#039;s purchasing what and from what companies.

I believe people will resort to other means to avoid paying the taxes.  Paying 8-10% can add up with big purchases.

When will our government learn increases in taxes do the EXACTLY REVERSE in what they intend to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry give it time eventually ALL online retailers will have to pay state tax in some fashion.  OR worse the VAT tax that&#8217;s discussed.  The days of no tax is coming to an end.  I also live in NY. Ugh. I&#8217;m not sure why Amazon would bother to collect even though other retailers like Newegg do not.  How come the states don&#8217;t try to collect on regular purchases (offline) out of state but target online? Answer: because it&#8217;s easy to track.  I&#8217;m surprised the states don&#8217;t go through the credit card companies to find out who&#8217;s purchasing what and from what companies.</p>
<p>I believe people will resort to other means to avoid paying the taxes.  Paying 8-10% can add up with big purchases.</p>
<p>When will our government learn increases in taxes do the EXACTLY REVERSE in what they intend to?</p>
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