I have taken Texas real estate classes, read books, attended seminars and webinars and I still heard some things that I have never heard before. It was great information. It gave me simple steps to follow where I could go out and close a deal right now! And I am working hard at closing a wholesale deal right now. I’ll post my check when I close.

And consumerism commentary.com are dumb – they talk bad about Rich Dad, yet have his banners plastered all over their website…wow

Look, sorry you got suckered, BUT what are you doing to invest? What deals are you trying to work on? Its up to YOU to make things happen. Right? They cant hold your d**k every time you need to piss. Seriously. Be a man, grow up… you paid the money, stop whining like a 5 year old and go to the courses, learn from the mentor and whatever else you paid $30k – something for.

If you went to college and spent that sort of money, and didnt get a job… whos fault is it then? The school? or YOU!

I was dupped by Millionare Chaplin Lee Escobar!

I may not be like Lee Escobar, but atleast I have my morals.

scam tigrent rich dad Robert Kiyosaki Mentor & Chaplin Lee Escobar.

Scamming using gods callings to promote your gain = No Liency to Prosecute.

WHY did I get a Motovational Bracelet? I thought the seminar was “Basic Real Estate training.
“Failure is Not an Option” (that’s what my bracelet says).

2 hours of training? Take the cash flow game and copy the deal cards and you will have learned MORE than they taught you. They call it teaching, but will NEVER answer your question, saying you’re stupid and need Advanced Training.

Tag words:
SCAM – Tigrent Learning Rich Dad Poor Dad Robert Kiyosaki Kim Kiyosaki Lee Escobar

The financial freedom train sounded sooo nice, I found myself sucking up to the Millionare Lee Escobar to he would like me more, and then teach me the best.
I’m mad at myself for not walking up to him and punching him. He has NO Morals or Ethics. I did not expect this behavior from a chaplain. Uhhhh, is he really a chaplain? Who gets off on using that for their benefit?

Rich Dad lets this go for 5 years now, under 2 different companies, Whitney and Tigrent Learning. Robert needs to pay for this too. He cashes EVERY check he gets for this.

Of course the free seminar is a sales pitch! Interestingly enough, the 3 day real estate seminar is now 2 for 1 @ $199 now. Which makes it probably worth it. They will try to sell you more seminars but YOU have the power to decide.
The material they give you to review is not too bad and if you negotiate a bit you can grasp more books when they present them to you. I got for $50 of books fro free by just attending.
Now they will sell you the Cash Flow game, but you can play it online for free on http://www.richdad.com, so refrain from buying it.
Now, what I think is interesting is that you can become consciously incompetent: you will then know what is left for you to learn in order to succeed… Then find this information at the library or your local bookstore, and by networking with other investors. Watch out for that too, investors can be greedy and use you, if they have a good tip they will probably not tell you or they will lose their competitive advantage. Just make friends and find good contractors.
Still, you have to be genuinely interested in real estate. My dad was a real estate investor in another country so I just want to figure how it works here. It’s hard work and no “get rich quick”, but if you are serious about it you can make a good living out of it… Still, it’s risky and time consuming. Not for everybody’s mindset.

Take care everyone.

I attended the free intro session, and found it interesting enough to attend the three-day, $495 seminar. I am not a professional trader, but I have taken investing classes, used on-line brokerage accounts (for stocks), and have a mixed portfolio of stocks, mutual funds, IRAs, 401Ks, etc. While I dissappointed with the limited amount of solid investing information provided, I felt the seminar was worth the time and money I invested in it for the following reasons:

1. I learned about the “technical” approach to identifying and assessing potential stock/option purchases (using the EduTrader/MachTrader software). Previously I was familiar only with the “fundamentals” approach (assessing a companies management, available cash, P/E, etc.)
2. I was exposed to the various types of options available to the investor (put/call, straddle, strangle, bi-directional, etc). It wasn’t a lot of information, but the instructor explained well enough that I could understand the differences (I left with 25-30 pages of notes, in addition to written comments in the workbook)
3. The EduTrader software and Intro to Options CDs have been very useful
4. I received the Course Catalog for their Advanced Training. I won’t be taking the Advanced Training, but the catalog provides enough information about the topics that you can use it to order books about the topics

I also have to agree with several of the previous posts. You will not learn everything you need to know to start making millions of dollars in stocks/options. This seminar is a sales pitch for you to take additional advanced courses, and pay from $9,500-$39,500. They will recommend you do what ever it takes to pay for the advanced training (max out your credit cards, home equity loan, etc).

If you are generally familiar with investing, would like to receive a guide for a more structure approach to learning, and have a degree of self-discipline to study on your own, this can be a positive experience. Just be prepared for the hard-core salesmanship.

I found the presenter to be personable, capable and genuinely interested in the betterment of all those attending the class–she even recommended to a few in the class that they needed to work on some areas of their life and finances and not consider taking any classes at this time.

I recommend you do your due diligence about your own motives and expectations of this seminar “before” attending. Don't blame them if you thought you were going to become a business success with only a three day $495 investment–won't happen for you and hasn't happened for anyone else! Success in all areas of life demands much more from us!

after paying the $495, I called my CC company MasterCard they said I have to wait for the charge to be posted on the account before I can dispute it.

1. Question, disputing the $495 with your CC company did this also include the

currently billing of $39.95 for the software? Or you have to wait for the changes for the month

billing of $39.95 and then call up your CC company again and deal with this a second time?

2. How did yall find out the fax#?

Next Texas city coming up after San Antonio is Austin I heard the guy say in class today not

sure if that is true.

Consider yourselves warned

Attended the free seminar in Houston, TX on Aug 4, 2009 got suckered into purchasing the 3-day training class. The next day Aug. 5, 2009 I began cancelling the three day training course. Sent in the cancellation notice by certified mail, called RD two days later and they pitched me the “You need to fax us the student contract” I knew that was the beginning of the run-arounds.

Good thing I put it on my AmEx Credit Card, so many people were paying with cash. I’ve talked wtih AmEx twice already and they told me they are not releasing any funds to that company and a billing inquiry will take place in three days. Tort laws are in place to protect citizens from thigs like this. Dave Ramsey is still my all time favorite he would never run schemes like this.

When in doubt..DOUBT!!! or at least us a credit card that can, and will be disputed in your favor.

For anyone who says it was vague, it sounds to me like it may have been a difference in instructors? My instructor’s name was Damien, who seemed to be very experienced, knowledgeable, and “real”. Perhaps I was simply duped, but I don’t think so. When I went to him with a couple of questions on break, he had real practical answers to my questions (didn’t seem like he put me off or was vague in any way). I not only learned some very valuable information for me personally, I’ve already helped 2 of my clients and 1 friend (going through a foreclosure) with a couple of minor things – which I would have not known about if not attending.

I was (and continue to be) interested in continuing education to make my dream a reality. Let me further say, I have always wanted to invest in real estate for a living – since getting my license 10 years ago, actually. I have simply never taken the time, actions, and commitment to make it happen – because it just seemed like a dream. For me, I think the advanced trainings could be the kick in the pants some people need to make their dream a reality. However, if it isn’t your dream – or someone has made you think it “might” be a good dream – you probably will fail miserably because you won’t have the commitment in place to make it happen. It isn’t get rich quick and it isn’t for someone who isn’t genuinely interested in real estate. It’s something you have to be passionate about!

All that being said, I signed up for the advanced training. 4 courses, a mentor, charged to credit cards for around $26,000. Sounds nuts, right? :) Yeah, to me too. Even though I am extremely pumped and motivated to make my dream a reality, I felt I needed to step back and reevaluate my next actions/spending to make the best decision for me right now.

So I read all these posts thinking that it would be a living NIGHTMARE to cancel. SO FAR, I AM WRONG.

Now, everything has not been processed yet, but I at least have information for you Floridians who took the course. The phone number on my Notice of Cancellation was correct: 800-570-2020. I spoke w/ James at extension 3537 who gave me the proper fax number to send the notice of cancellation to. The fax number is 801-269-5178 – he said to fax it to Attn: Student Resolution. He said it would take up to 10 days to process the refund. Once they receive my cancellation, they will email me the mailing label to use. When I asked, he said the information for which products should be returned would be included – however, he didn’t sound confident of that, so we’ll have to wait and see. He confirmed my email address without me asking him. I will make sure I set my fax machine to print a confirmation page – and suggest anyone else do the same just in case.

The bottom line is that while I am cancelling the advanced education right now, there’s a chance I may sign up later. Or not. The point is that I came away from the 3-day training totally motivated to make this work, and I’ll do my own research to find the best educational resources for me personally. I saw another poster say that he took 12-15 pages of notes – I did the same. I’ve gone back to review them and still feel there was tremendous value (certainly the $495 that I paid) in what was taught.

Like most everything else, the training is not black or white, good or bad. It’s some combination and you must decide for yourself if it is a value to YOU. A value to me may not be a value to you. BY ALL MEANS, don’t let negative comments on this program or any another allow you to give up on your dream, if that’s what you want to do. Don’t let it scare you or stop you in your tracks and do nothing! FIND what’s best for you and you’ll be the winner every time! (…sorry for the rambling…I know many have had bad experiences and I understand that…I would just hate to see someone’s dreams dashed simply because of individual opinions and/or negativity…)

I am not disappointed about my $500 though. I like the Edutrader software…for now until I figure fundemental stock analysis out on my own. I also picked up some basic options trading ideas that I was unaware of. However, a little research shows that this strategies can be learned from the internet for FREE. Thats what I am going to do.

Beware if you are planning to attend one of these 3-day seminars, you learn just enough to be dangerous and your credit cards are at risk to some very good salesmen!!!!

Thank you for letting us know about the credit card scam. We are not taking the cards… Ha!

Oh, my husband has been listening to RK cd’s and he’s excited about the knowledge so far.

We will send updated info after the class.

I am more upset about the 20+ hours I have wasted over the past 2 days then the $500 I spent on the course. Trying to debate whether or not I sit through the third day in hopes of picking up a few more ideas.

I would have some respect for them if they just spent 1-day giving us the important information and explaining the courses with pricing VERSUS making us sit there for 3-days and wasting our time on a sales pitch that was literally making me shake in my chair with frustration over the time I was wasting and sleaziness of the whole thing. They could have definitely given us the 3-day course in 1-day.

The funny thing… if they were open about their intentions and did not waste days of my life, I would probably have purchased some of the $5K classes. I see the value in investing in education. I can say that I will DEFINITELY NOT buy any of the advanced training b/c of their approach to this whole thing.

So in conclusion, there is nothing wrong with learning how to invest from Robert Kiyosaki, Warren Buffet, Wall Street Journal and other bits and pieces of information you can find. Just take from it, analyze it, if you feel good about it, try it, and after a little while, come up with your own methods and reasons, if you don’t feel good about the information you read, seek other things. Oh and Robert Kiyosaki does not like “get rich quick” schemes. It says so in back of “Rich Dad’s Guide To Investing” and his seminars do not preach how to get rich quick.

I know a couple of the people who did buy the advanced packages so I will be able to followup with them and see how things go! I am excited for those who were able to move forward and wish them much success! The low point for me was walking away without being able to move forward today! I take away from this experience a much higher Financial IQ, learned some things that will help me and my husband as we continue to build our business. I know there is so much more I need to know and can’t wait to get that education!

Before we attended the seminar I had read the books and listened to some of the CD’s and had already started putting into practice our surplus budget and working with our financial statement correctly. I definitely increased my financial IQ just from reading the materials and listening to the DVD’s and CD’s which came with the $495 and that was before even attending the seminar. I was amazed at how much more we could do with our budget and how I found more money to work with just by following a few suggestions in his books and I thought we actually were pretty good with our budget but WOW I was shocked that I wasn’t utlizing what we kept or that we could keep more just by making a few changes.

I am a lot more creative about how to utliize our income! For my family it was money well spent and I am grateful for the opportunity to have had this experience and being reintroduced to RK’s books, etc. (I had read Rich Dad Poor Dad about 7 years ago but my radar wasn’t up so I missed some very important information). I am excited about going back tomorrow and playing the Cash Flow game and enjoying the great people who are also attending the seminar. It has motivated me to take action on some other things I have procrastinated about for far too long and I am very excited about getting that kick in the rear to be proactive on these goals. That kick alone was worth the money!

I think you get out of things what you expect. I knew for $500 I would not walk away from 3 days knowing how to do real estate! I got what I expected and I was in tune to that so I picked up a lot of nuggets to utlize! For me I got far more than my money’s worth! No regrets here!

My concern is the lack of online forums, blogs, equimine support page, etc.
I’ve had all kinds of trouble trying to get onto the richdad discussion boards or the very similar WIA forums. I understand why they need to keep the negative chatter, especially from competitors , but I just want to discuss and compare notes with other users of this software. The manual is a good start, but as a long time IT person, I need my online resources and to be able to interact with them.