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	<title>Comments on: Target Retirement Funds (Also Known As Lifecycle Funds)</title>
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		<title>By: Armando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question for you all:  the Vanguard requires a minimum of $3000 to start but has a lower managing fee than other companies that have a minimum investment of $1000.  Is Vanguard a better choice?  Also, I hear that there are penalties for retrieving your money from the fund before its target date - if that is so - then how can someone use funds from one are and allocate it into another TRF?...sorry if this sounds stupid =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for you all:  the Vanguard requires a minimum of $3000 to start but has a lower managing fee than other companies that have a minimum investment of $1000.  Is Vanguard a better choice?  Also, I hear that there are penalties for retrieving your money from the fund before its target date &#8211; if that is so &#8211; then how can someone use funds from one are and allocate it into another TRF?&#8230;sorry if this sounds stupid =(</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think &quot;your&quot; retirement year fund is too conservative, you could just invest in a TRF 5 or 10 years earlier than your expected retirement.  That is what I did.  Obviously when you get closer to the date of the fund, you&#039;ll want to evaluate leaving it or splitting it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think &#8220;your&#8221; retirement year fund is too conservative, you could just invest in a TRF 5 or 10 years earlier than your expected retirement.  That is what I did.  Obviously when you get closer to the date of the fund, you&#8217;ll want to evaluate leaving it or splitting it out.</p>
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		<title>By: EN</title>
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		<dc:creator>EN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I have to say is it could be worse, a lot worse.  TRFunds are decent choices for people interested in a &quot;set it, forget it&quot; approach and, although conservative, give good diversification.

For me, like some of the readers above, I&#039;m just waiting for enough money to transfer to other funds......TRFunds come in handy when you&#039;re just starting out.

Anyhow, thanks for the thoughts. Gives it another angle to look at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I have to say is it could be worse, a lot worse.  TRFunds are decent choices for people interested in a &#8220;set it, forget it&#8221; approach and, although conservative, give good diversification.</p>
<p>For me, like some of the readers above, I&#8217;m just waiting for enough money to transfer to other funds&#8230;&#8230;TRFunds come in handy when you&#8217;re just starting out.</p>
<p>Anyhow, thanks for the thoughts. Gives it another angle to look at.</p>
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		<title>By: shoyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 401(k) started offering target funds this year. The expensive ratio for the 2050 fund is .65 percent and .54 percent for the 2005 fund. My plan does not show the real name of the fund, but the name of the fund management company is AllianceBernstein L.P. 

I&#039;m going to wait a little while before I move my money into the target funds to see whether I can beat them with my own mix.

So far, I&#039;m losing, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 401(k) started offering target funds this year. The expensive ratio for the 2050 fund is .65 percent and .54 percent for the 2005 fund. My plan does not show the real name of the fund, but the name of the fund management company is AllianceBernstein L.P. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to wait a little while before I move my money into the target funds to see whether I can beat them with my own mix.</p>
<p>So far, I&#8217;m losing, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using this type of vehicle for my deferred comp but I bumped up the target from  to keep it from being too conservative. The fund doesn&#039;t know when I am going to retire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using this type of vehicle for my deferred comp but I bumped up the target from  to keep it from being too conservative. The fund doesn&#8217;t know when I am going to retire.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree whole-heartedly with the first commenter, Tom. I also have my Roth IRA fully invested in a similar fund (Vanguard&#039;s 2045 Target Retirement Fund - VTIVX) and am just diligently waiting to accumulate either $9,000 or $12,000 so I can split my investment up into separate funds.

For the time being, I don&#039;t mind having my money sit in a target retirement fund, but it&#039;s really just a holding place until I have the minimum needed to diversify a little further.

Very informative post, thanks Flexo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree whole-heartedly with the first commenter, Tom. I also have my Roth IRA fully invested in a similar fund (Vanguard&#8217;s 2045 Target Retirement Fund &#8211; VTIVX) and am just diligently waiting to accumulate either $9,000 or $12,000 so I can split my investment up into separate funds.</p>
<p>For the time being, I don&#8217;t mind having my money sit in a target retirement fund, but it&#8217;s really just a holding place until I have the minimum needed to diversify a little further.</p>
<p>Very informative post, thanks Flexo.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote previously about how easy it was to set up my Roth IRA with a Vanguard target-date retirement fund. http://guppielife.com/2008/01/30/how-to-open-a-roth-ira-in-15-minutes-or-less/

I think the important idea to remember here is that these funds might not be ideal for everyone, but they are a WORLD better than not investing at all.  Don&#039;t put off investing because you think you need to do months of research first.

Personally, I&#039;m not losing sleep over the fact that my Roth IRA is a little too conservative right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote previously about how easy it was to set up my Roth IRA with a Vanguard target-date retirement fund. <a href="http://guppielife.com/2008/01/30/how-to-open-a-roth-ira-in-15-minutes-or-less/" rel="nofollow">http://guppielife.com/2008/01/30/how-to-open-a-roth-ira-in-15-minutes-or-less/</a></p>
<p>I think the important idea to remember here is that these funds might not be ideal for everyone, but they are a WORLD better than not investing at all.  Don&#8217;t put off investing because you think you need to do months of research first.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not losing sleep over the fact that my Roth IRA is a little too conservative right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all your concerns, I never agree completely with the asset allocation chosen by these funds and dislike the extra expenses they layer on.  However I think they are very appropriate for people who are completely uneducated or are just starting out and don&#039;t have much to invest.

Even with all their flaws they mostly achieve their purpose, so a complete novice could do a lot worse than picking a TR fund.  It&#039;s a solid choice for a novice or uninterested investor to let everything sit in a TR fund for a year while they do their homework and decide what to really do.  The alternative is to throw darts at a wall and I&#039;ve seen people come up with some really odd (poor) choices.

Also as Tom described, the fee minimums make it impossible to get your desired asset allocation when you&#039;re first starting out.  TR funds are a reasonable compromise to get something pretty close until you have enough invested to implement your desired asset allocation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all your concerns, I never agree completely with the asset allocation chosen by these funds and dislike the extra expenses they layer on.  However I think they are very appropriate for people who are completely uneducated or are just starting out and don&#8217;t have much to invest.</p>
<p>Even with all their flaws they mostly achieve their purpose, so a complete novice could do a lot worse than picking a TR fund.  It&#8217;s a solid choice for a novice or uninterested investor to let everything sit in a TR fund for a year while they do their homework and decide what to really do.  The alternative is to throw darts at a wall and I&#8217;ve seen people come up with some really odd (poor) choices.</p>
<p>Also as Tom described, the fee minimums make it impossible to get your desired asset allocation when you&#8217;re first starting out.  TR funds are a reasonable compromise to get something pretty close until you have enough invested to implement your desired asset allocation.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your concerns regarding the Vanguard 2050 fund.  I have my Roth IRA fully invested in that fund, and, too, would like to see more of an international presence and no bonds.  That being said, I am going to keep my Roth fully invested in the 2050 fund until I clear at least $12,000 in Roth assets.  That $12,000 will enable me to surpass the $3,000 minimum on at least 4 different Vanguard funds to start my own personal asset allocation.  Until then I am happy with the very low fee 2050 fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your concerns regarding the Vanguard 2050 fund.  I have my Roth IRA fully invested in that fund, and, too, would like to see more of an international presence and no bonds.  That being said, I am going to keep my Roth fully invested in the 2050 fund until I clear at least $12,000 in Roth assets.  That $12,000 will enable me to surpass the $3,000 minimum on at least 4 different Vanguard funds to start my own personal asset allocation.  Until then I am happy with the very low fee 2050 fund.</p>
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