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		<title>By: keri</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/tax-rebate-calculator-updated-and-blog-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-148529</link>
		<dc:creator>keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so confused as to whether my husband and I are getting 600 or 1200 for a rebate.  We have 1,824 in line 44 of 1040 for owed tax, but after child tax credits and retirementr savings contributions credit  it crosses it out to 0.  We got back all that was withheld from my husband&#039;s pay checks during the year 2007.  Could someone explain to me I don&#039;t know what the if you paid taxes part means.  We owed taxes yes, but after credits no.  We didn&#039;t have to pay we got a return.  I was told we would qualify for 1800 because we have 2 kids, but I am thinking mabey it is only 1200.  I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so confused as to whether my husband and I are getting 600 or 1200 for a rebate.  We have 1,824 in line 44 of 1040 for owed tax, but after child tax credits and retirementr savings contributions credit  it crosses it out to 0.  We got back all that was withheld from my husband&#8217;s pay checks during the year 2007.  Could someone explain to me I don&#8217;t know what the if you paid taxes part means.  We owed taxes yes, but after credits no.  We didn&#8217;t have to pay we got a return.  I was told we would qualify for 1800 because we have 2 kids, but I am thinking mabey it is only 1200.  I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: ria</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/tax-rebate-calculator-updated-and-blog-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-137004</link>
		<dc:creator>ria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the reply! your take on the meaning of &quot;educational assistance benefits&quot; seems reasonable, though the terminology is ambiguous. what else would we expect?

i&#039;m afraid i&#039;m still hazy on the &quot;gross income&quot; issue. is &quot;gross income&quot; (in the special rule) different from &quot;adjusted gross income&quot; in the legislation? actually, this is a moot point for me now that the felloship issue is cleared up, but i&#039;m still curious.

thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the reply! your take on the meaning of &#8220;educational assistance benefits&#8221; seems reasonable, though the terminology is ambiguous. what else would we expect?</p>
<p>i&#8217;m afraid i&#8217;m still hazy on the &#8220;gross income&#8221; issue. is &#8220;gross income&#8221; (in the special rule) different from &#8220;adjusted gross income&#8221; in the legislation? actually, this is a moot point for me now that the felloship issue is cleared up, but i&#8217;m still curious.</p>
<p>thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/tax-rebate-calculator-updated-and-blog-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-136999</link>
		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two figures of income are required to determine eligibility.  Here is the definition from the calculator which is based on the understanding of the special rule:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Earned income&lt;/strong&gt; is all the taxable and nontaxable income you get from work. &lt;strong&gt;Include&lt;/strong&gt; wages, salaries, tips, self-employment income, deferred compensation contributions to retirement plans, salary reductions in a cafeteria benefit plan, dependent care benefits, adoption benefits, educational assistance benefits, union strike benefits, statutory employee income, disability payments from an employer disability plan if you are under retirement age, meals and lodging that are for the convenience of your employer or due to military service and the clergy housing allowance if included on Schedule SE. &lt;strong&gt;Also include&lt;/strong&gt; include earned income from a partnership or a farm. &lt;strong&gt;Do not include&lt;/strong&gt; interest, dividends, pensions, annuities, Social Security, railroad retirement benefits, alimony, child support, jury duty pay, worker&#039;s compensation, veteran&#039;s benefits, welfare benefits, workfare payments, penal inmate earnings, unemployment compensation or disability payments after you reach retirement age or if you paid premiums for the disability insurance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This income, plus social security benefits and disability benefits in special cases (defined in the calculator, scroll down), if greater than $3,000, qualifies you for the rebate.  Scholarships and fellowships are included in the &quot;educational assistance benefits&quot; mentioned above, so yes, they are considered for the purpose of the &quot;earned income&quot; in the calculator.

Secondly, your *AGI* is checked to see if it&#039;s over the limit of $150,000 for married-filing-jointly or $75,000 for other.  If it&#039;s over the limit, the rebate is reduced by 5% of the overage, eventually reducing the rebate to zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two figures of income are required to determine eligibility.  Here is the definition from the calculator which is based on the understanding of the special rule:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Earned income</strong> is all the taxable and nontaxable income you get from work. <strong>Include</strong> wages, salaries, tips, self-employment income, deferred compensation contributions to retirement plans, salary reductions in a cafeteria benefit plan, dependent care benefits, adoption benefits, educational assistance benefits, union strike benefits, statutory employee income, disability payments from an employer disability plan if you are under retirement age, meals and lodging that are for the convenience of your employer or due to military service and the clergy housing allowance if included on Schedule SE. <strong>Also include</strong> include earned income from a partnership or a farm. <strong>Do not include</strong> interest, dividends, pensions, annuities, Social Security, railroad retirement benefits, alimony, child support, jury duty pay, worker&#8217;s compensation, veteran&#8217;s benefits, welfare benefits, workfare payments, penal inmate earnings, unemployment compensation or disability payments after you reach retirement age or if you paid premiums for the disability insurance.</p></blockquote>
<p>This income, plus social security benefits and disability benefits in special cases (defined in the calculator, scroll down), if greater than $3,000, qualifies you for the rebate.  Scholarships and fellowships are included in the &#8220;educational assistance benefits&#8221; mentioned above, so yes, they are considered for the purpose of the &#8220;earned income&#8221; in the calculator.</p>
<p>Secondly, your *AGI* is checked to see if it&#8217;s over the limit of $150,000 for married-filing-jointly or $75,000 for other.  If it&#8217;s over the limit, the rebate is reduced by 5% of the overage, eventually reducing the rebate to zero.</p>
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		<title>By: ria</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/tax-rebate-calculator-updated-and-blog-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-136997</link>
		<dc:creator>ria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i took a look at the signed legislation and i&#039;m still puzzled with a few things:

1. there are two prongs for determining a rebate-eligible &quot;taxpayer&quot; listed under SPECIAL RULE (2). the first is simply whether one has a &quot;net income tax liability&quot; as defined in the section. the second is whether &quot;gross income&quot; is greater than the standard deduction plus the exemption amount (or twice the exemption for joint returns). but what is this &quot;gross income&quot; (a term not defined in this section). did congress mean &quot;adjusted gross income&quot;? this is not entirely clear since elsewhere the revisions to the tax code refer explicitly to AGI. since either prong in this special rule is enough to establish a rebate-eligible &quot;taxpayer&quot; how did you deal with this second test in your rebate calculator, which only asks users to input AGI?

2. are taxable scholarships and fellowships &quot;qualifying income&quot; under the rebate rules? i&#039;ve been racking my brains trying to figure this out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i took a look at the signed legislation and i&#8217;m still puzzled with a few things:</p>
<p>1. there are two prongs for determining a rebate-eligible &#8220;taxpayer&#8221; listed under SPECIAL RULE (2). the first is simply whether one has a &#8220;net income tax liability&#8221; as defined in the section. the second is whether &#8220;gross income&#8221; is greater than the standard deduction plus the exemption amount (or twice the exemption for joint returns). but what is this &#8220;gross income&#8221; (a term not defined in this section). did congress mean &#8220;adjusted gross income&#8221;? this is not entirely clear since elsewhere the revisions to the tax code refer explicitly to AGI. since either prong in this special rule is enough to establish a rebate-eligible &#8220;taxpayer&#8221; how did you deal with this second test in your rebate calculator, which only asks users to input AGI?</p>
<p>2. are taxable scholarships and fellowships &#8220;qualifying income&#8221; under the rebate rules? i&#8217;ve been racking my brains trying to figure this out.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/tax-rebate-calculator-updated-and-blog-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-136896</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link man!</p>
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		<title>By: budgetsaresexy</title>
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		<dc:creator>budgetsaresexy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome tool indeed, thank you good sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome tool indeed, thank you good sir!</p>
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		<title>By: Saving Freak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saving Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great tool.  I also got the same results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great tool.  I also got the same results.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/tax-rebate-calculator-updated-and-blog-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-136688</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>same money, different calculator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>same money, different calculator.</p>
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