Comments on: Thinking About Moving Savings From ING Direct to HSBC Direct? http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/ A premier personal finance blog, established 2003. Within, Flexo discusses his own experiences with money, and he and other authors comment on a wide range of personal finance topics. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:45:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jumper http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-256416 jumper Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:39:46 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-256416 stay away from ING Direct, saving rates are sometimes good but they have been moving consistently in the less competitive direction for the longest time. They are desperate for some deposits because without this they can't be competitive in other rates offerings. The promotions are good while they last but when you get in you get skrewed. They are all perky and cozy but don't let that fool you. One of my friends also with ING and after getting a note about fraud and how they'll send out new cards with chips because they protect their customers... well it took over 3 weeks for that card to arrive... they don't live up to their promise... I see more problems coming up, I'd get my money out to HSBC or ALLY, better security, better rates and great products and services stay away from ING Direct, saving rates are sometimes good but they have been moving consistently in the less competitive direction for the longest time. They are desperate for some deposits because without this they can’t be competitive in other rates offerings. The promotions are good while they last but when you get in you get skrewed. They are all perky and cozy but don’t let that fool you. One of my friends also with ING and after getting a note about fraud and how they’ll send out new cards with chips because they protect their customers… well it took over 3 weeks for that card to arrive… they don’t live up to their promise… I see more problems coming up, I’d get my money out to HSBC or ALLY, better security, better rates and great products and services

]]> By: devendelano http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-119127 devendelano Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:24:33 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-119127 FNBODIRECT.COM had a 6% promo, now it's going down to it's 'normal' of 5.25%. kicks all others asses! plus now has atm cards, with no machines; and credit cards with 2% cash back. top that! FNBODIRECT.COM had a 6% promo, now it’s going down to it’s ‘normal’ of 5.25%. kicks all others asses! plus now has atm cards, with no machines; and credit cards with 2% cash back. top that!

]]> By: Archetypical http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-116989 Archetypical Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:43:12 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-116989 Been using HSBC for a while with 2 online savings accounts and a new bill-pay checking account. Tim -- I have no problems with MS Money, just make sure you enter your account login, password, and security key in ALL CAPS. When they process it on the website they send it all to upper-case during validation. Been using HSBC for a while with 2 online savings accounts and a new bill-pay checking account.

Tim — I have no problems with MS Money, just make sure you enter your account login, password, and security key in ALL CAPS. When they process it on the website they send it all to upper-case during validation.

]]> By: Carol http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-114445 Carol Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:42:04 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-114445 Apologies for the above typo… the url I’m using is http://www.hsbcdirect.ca Apologies for the above typo… the url I’m using is http://www.hsbcdirect.ca

]]> By: Carol http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-114444 Carol Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:40:21 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-114444 I'm from Canada and have therefore been using http://www.hsbcedirect.ca rather than the .com US site. The interest rates of ING Direct and HSBC Direct seem fairly on par at 3.5% right now. By any chance does anyone know the history of rates with ING or HSBC in Canada oppose to the US? I’m from Canada and have therefore been using http://www.hsbcedirect.ca rather than the .com US site. The interest rates of ING Direct and HSBC Direct seem fairly on par at 3.5% right now. By any chance does anyone know the history of rates with ING or HSBC in Canada oppose to the US?

]]> By: KevinS http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-89956 KevinS Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:55:33 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-89956 I know this is about HSBC Direct and ING, but has anyone looked into Citi's e-Savings account or the E-Trade bank? It looks like both have competitive rates. Is the only comparison between HSBC and ING, or should we broaden the scope here? I know this is about HSBC Direct and ING, but has anyone looked into Citi’s e-Savings account or the E-Trade bank? It looks like both have competitive rates.

Is the only comparison between HSBC and ING, or should we broaden the scope here?

]]> By: Tim http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-67370 Tim Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:52:49 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-67370 HSBC has horrible web site. Too much security crap. Makes life very hard to do anything online. They haven't mail me gift cards they promised in promotion even after two months. You can't import statements directly from Microsoft Money directly even though Microsft web site says HSBC allows it. Too many problems with HSBC. HSBC has horrible web site. Too much security crap. Makes life very hard to do anything online. They haven’t mail me gift cards they promised in promotion even after two months. You can’t import statements directly from Microsoft Money directly even though Microsft web site says HSBC allows it. Too many problems with HSBC.

]]> By: mooncusser http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-59283 mooncusser Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:30:24 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-59283 I've been considering a switch to HSBC since my brother told me about his account. I won't leave ING completely, but the big account will be moving if I take the plunge. BTW, I agree the "Katie" message is a bit less than honest, but I think it might be a case of enthusiastic employee acting on their own and not a corporate marketing message. I’ve been considering a switch to HSBC since my brother told me about his account. I won’t leave ING completely, but the big account will be moving if I take the plunge.

BTW, I agree the “Katie” message is a bit less than honest, but I think it might be a case of enthusiastic employee acting on their own and not a corporate marketing message.

]]> By: Bob http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-57592 Bob Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:29:29 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-57592 HSBCDirect has some sort of connection to Household Finance. If you Google "household finance", you'll see http://www.consumeraffairs.com/finance/household.html HSBCDirect has some sort of connection to Household Finance. If you Google “household finance”, you’ll see
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/finance/household.html

]]> By: John Koontz http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-44370 John Koontz Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:14:36 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-44370 I haven't used ING, but HSBC's website is horrible. Multiple logins for money transfers, terrible structure, and very strict rules for passwords. Ugh. I haven’t used ING, but HSBC’s website is horrible. Multiple logins for money transfers, terrible structure, and very strict rules for passwords. Ugh.

]]> By: Max http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-42402 Max Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:41:09 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-42402 I've been able to establish sub-accounts with HSBC in much the same way you can with ING. You have to go through the whole application process again from start to finish. I've since also added a checking account (to get a bonus), but it serves as another option for accessing emergency funds since online transfers between HSBC accounts are instant. Customer service has been good as far as I'm concerned. I’ve been able to establish sub-accounts with HSBC in much the same way you can with ING. You have to go through the whole application process again from start to finish. I’ve since also added a checking account (to get a bonus), but it serves as another option for accessing emergency funds since online transfers between HSBC accounts are instant. Customer service has been good as far as I’m concerned.

]]> By: kmickeyd http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-42104 kmickeyd Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:38:24 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-42104 I've been thinking about doing the same - switching over, that is. With ING not keeping up with rates, it's tempting, since rates are so abominably low anyway. I like my subgroups, though. And I worry about a debit card attached (I know it's not required, of course), it would make it too easy to get to my money! So...still thinking. Maybe I'll take some of the advice above and split them. Thanks for the overview. I’ve been thinking about doing the same – switching over, that is. With ING not keeping up with rates, it’s tempting, since rates are so abominably low anyway.

I like my subgroups, though. And I worry about a debit card attached (I know it’s not required, of course), it would make it too easy to get to my money!

So…still thinking. Maybe I’ll take some of the advice above and split them. Thanks for the overview.

]]> By: Dus10 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41979 Dus10 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:05:12 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41979 HSBC seems to be offering a promotional $25 gift card for signing up for the online savings account. http://www.hsbcdirect.com/1/2/bestbuy HSBC seems to be offering a promotional $25 gift card for signing up for the online savings account.

http://www.hsbcdirect.com/1/2/bestbuy

]]> By: Flexo http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41910 Flexo Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:25:32 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41910 Once you are logged in, just click ING Direct's big "Open an account" orange on the left hand side of the page. You'll choose either your current ING Direct account(s) or your external linked accounts for the initial funding. Note... ING Direct calls these ING Direct subaccounts "accounts," but the FDIC insures up to only $100,000 total... not $100,000 per subaccount. You really only have one account with ING Direct. (...Unless you also have a joint account, in which case you have two.) Once you are logged in, just click ING Direct’s big “Open an account” orange on the left hand side of the page. You’ll choose either your current ING Direct account(s) or your external linked accounts for the initial funding.

Note… ING Direct calls these ING Direct subaccounts “accounts,” but the FDIC insures up to only $100,000 total… not $100,000 per subaccount. You really only have one account with ING Direct. (…Unless you also have a joint account, in which case you have two.)

]]> By: Financial Freedumb http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41902 Financial Freedumb Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:33:44 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41902 HSBC has great customer service! From day one, when the rep called me to walk me through how to use the site, I was impressed. And no, I'm not posting from an HSBC ip! :) About the subaccounts...Flexo are you just opening up new accounts while you're logged in? I can't find anything about sub-accounts besides that. HSBC has great customer service! From day one, when the rep called me to walk me through how to use the site, I was impressed.

And no, I’m not posting from an HSBC ip! :)

About the subaccounts…Flexo are you just opening up new accounts while you’re logged in? I can’t find anything about sub-accounts besides that.

]]> By: Joe http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41888 Joe Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:54:31 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41888 How do you setup the sub-accounts? I've looked all over the site and can't figure it out. Maybe "Kate" can help me out and show me some of that fine customer service? How do you setup the sub-accounts? I’ve looked all over the site and can’t figure it out. Maybe “Kate” can help me out and show me some of that fine customer service?

]]> By: Dan http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41883 Dan Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:49:27 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41883 I'm holding onto my ING and ED accounts with small balances just in case their rates return to former glory. I'm now doing most of my banking with Presidential. Currently: Online Savings: 5.12%, no minimum (but $5k to open) Online Checking: 4.5%, $1000 minimum, bill pay, higher interest than ING's current savings account so you'd have to think it would beat ING's future checking account, right? There's a hard credit check to open, but DC-area residents can avoid that by opening at one of their branches. And unlike Katie above, I'm actually just a happy rate-chasing customer :) I’m holding onto my ING and ED accounts with small balances just in case their rates return to former glory. I’m now doing most of my banking with Presidential.

Currently:
Online Savings: 5.12%, no minimum (but $5k to open)
Online Checking: 4.5%, $1000 minimum, bill pay, higher interest than ING’s current savings account so you’d have to think it would beat ING’s future checking account, right?

There’s a hard credit check to open, but DC-area residents can avoid that by opening at one of their branches.

And unlike Katie above, I’m actually just a happy rate-chasing customer :)

]]> By: Hank http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41877 Hank Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:17:20 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41877 I am in the same boat. Anyone know of any other internet-only banks out there? I am in the same boat. Anyone know of any other internet-only banks out there?

]]> By: mapgirl http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41872 mapgirl Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:54:43 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41872 Creepy on the ING IP address post. I wish HSBC had a referral bonus to sweeten the deal, but I'm going to start an account there anyway. I probably will shift a large chunk of my savings there, but I will continue to keep ING as well since I have CD's opened there already. It's not that I hate ING or anything like that, I'm really glad I have been with them. It's purely about interest. If they were within a half percent, I probably wouldn't switch, but now that they are at 0.7%, I feel it's time to make a move. It's not a huge amount of interest, but why should I keep my money at ING when I could make more at HSBC? Creepy on the ING IP address post.

I wish HSBC had a referral bonus to sweeten the deal, but I’m going to start an account there anyway. I probably will shift a large chunk of my savings there, but I will continue to keep ING as well since I have CD’s opened there already.

It’s not that I hate ING or anything like that, I’m really glad I have been with them. It’s purely about interest. If they were within a half percent, I probably wouldn’t switch, but now that they are at 0.7%, I feel it’s time to make a move. It’s not a huge amount of interest, but why should I keep my money at ING when I could make more at HSBC?

]]> By: Chris http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41864 Chris Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:32:45 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41864 I too had been thinking of switching from ING Direct to HSBC Direct, for the same reason. I had decided to make up my mind at the end of this month since I didn't want to forefeit my monthly interest pay out from ING on July 31 should I decide to move my money elsewhere. But now, after seeing the deceitful, no disclosure marketing message from "Katie" above, I've just made up my mind. Buh bye ING. If "Katie" would like to post an apology from the same IP address (as verified by Flexo), maybe I'll reconsider. But I don't do business with dishonest businesses. I'll vote with my feet and my wallet. I too had been thinking of switching from ING Direct to HSBC Direct, for the same reason. I had decided to make up my mind at the end of this month since I didn’t want to forefeit my monthly interest pay out from ING on July 31 should I decide to move my money elsewhere.

But now, after seeing the deceitful, no disclosure marketing message from “Katie” above, I’ve just made up my mind. Buh bye ING.

If “Katie” would like to post an apology from the same IP address (as verified by Flexo), maybe I’ll reconsider. But I don’t do business with dishonest businesses. I’ll vote with my feet and my wallet.

]]> By: Flexo http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41850 Flexo Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:23:12 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41850 I wouldn't leave ING Direct completely behind, and I'm interested to see what features they introduce. I wouldn’t leave ING Direct completely behind, and I’m interested to see what features they introduce.

]]> By: Katie http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41843 Katie Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:14:23 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41843 While I agree their rates are less than HSBC, their customer service is definitely superior and I think it's much more user-friendly. Have you heard about the new paperless checking they're coming out with soon? Should be pretty sweet. No fees on their end and a lot of ATMs are free now. It will probably have bill pay too. <i>[Editor's note: In the interest of full disclosure, this comment was posted from an IP address owned by ingdirect.com.]</i> While I agree their rates are less than HSBC, their customer service is definitely superior and I think it’s much more user-friendly.

Have you heard about the new paperless checking they’re coming out with soon? Should be pretty sweet. No fees on their end and a lot of ATMs are free now. It will probably have bill pay too.

[Editor's note: In the interest of full disclosure, this comment was posted from an IP address owned by ingdirect.com.]

]]> By: Michael http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41836 Michael Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:49:39 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41836 I do the same thing - keep accounts at several of the no-minimum high-interest rate online banks, and typically use the accounts for different things (car savings, holiday savings, whatever). When the interest rates end up with a large disparity, I shuffle which account is for what so that the largest balances get the best rates. I do the same thing – keep accounts at several of the no-minimum high-interest rate online banks, and typically use the accounts for different things (car savings, holiday savings, whatever). When the interest rates end up with a large disparity, I shuffle which account is for what so that the largest balances get the best rates.

]]> By: Kim http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-41827 Kim Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:21:51 +0000 http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/07/11/thinking-about-moving-savings-from-ing-direct-to-hsbc-direct/#comment-41827 Why don't you split it up? I keep my emergency fund at HSBC and keep my "sinking funds" or "freedom accounts" or whatever the gurus are calling them (for me they're car insurance and moving fund) at ING. Why don’t you split it up? I keep my emergency fund at HSBC and keep my “sinking funds” or “freedom accounts” or whatever the gurus are calling them (for me they’re car insurance and moving fund) at ING.

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