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Podcast 9: Penelope Trunk from Brazen Careerist and Leo Babauta from Zen Habits

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Penelope Trunk and Leo Babauta are today’s guests on the Consumerism Commentary Podcast. Penelope Trunk is the author of Brazen Careerist: The New Rules for Success and founder of the career advancement website Brazen Careerist. Tom Dziubek and I speak with Penelope about maintaining careers in today’s recession and she presents a number of tips for finding jobs right now.

Our discussion with Leo Babauta, author of The Power of Less and creator of Zen Habits, centers around the concept of minimalism and how this philosophy can improve your personal financial situation.

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[00:00] Introduction from Flexo
[00:48] Interview with Penelope Trunk
[01:35] — The economy’s effect on the job market
[02:45] — Generation X versus Generation Y
[05:52] — Applying for jobs online is not enough, hire a resume writer
[08:14] — Standing out among a large pool of applicants
[09:30] — Cover letters
[11:15] — Personalizing the job search with social media
[14:15] — What Brazen Careerist offers career seekers
[16:50] Interview with Leo Babauta
[17:35] — The definition of minimalism
[18:48] — How minimalism is related to personal finance
[19:40] — Minimalism versus frugality
[21:49] — Applying minimalism to buying a house and car
[24:51] — Small changes to spending in line with minimalism
[26:48] — Gradually shifting to minimalism
[28:27] — Minimalism helps you lose weight
[30:15] — Applying ten healthy dieting principles to debt elimination
[35:05] End

Updated December 15, 2017 and originally published June 21, 2009.

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I really liked listening to Leo Babauta on minimalism. I am value-conscious and resourceful, but don’t think I’m a minimalist. But I’m just not sure! I don’t like waste, but don’t see much difference between need and want. As a general rule, for instance, we don’t like movies. We’ve seen three since 1996 – one in the theatre because we won tickets (also the only time we’ve been in our newest theatre), Sicko – online because I was in the right place at the right time to find out about it (loved the movie), and one because my girl friend thinks we are movie-deprived and gave me a Johnny Depp movie video. I like Johnny Depp, but I had to force myself to sit in front of the screen that long and today I don’t remember the name of the movie. We wouldn’t dream of subscribing to NetFlix. The internet is our main entertainment, and it irritates me that we have to pay for basic cable TV, but that’s the only way we can get reception. TV seems like a basic need to me, though I don’t watch much of it.

I subscribed to 3 newspapers at one time, cut down to 2 when one of them went out of business, and then cut down to just the local paper until my husband took a job with them. The way they treated their employees caused me to vow never to take that paper again. I never thought I’d do that, after subscribing for so long, but now I get it free both online and from others who save the hard copy for us.

I used to go through 40 postage stamps a month. Now I might use that many in 6 months, due to the internet.

We have one vehicle, bought new for cash. It seems wasteful to me to have/support two vehicles, since I do not work in such a way that I can’t work around my husband’s schedule. We do not commute, and believe in working where we live. We don’t live separate lives.

We like certain luxuries. My husband collects diecast cars. I like expensive purses and electronics. A friend of mine mentioned “Coach” handbags a couple of days ago. I’d heard of them, and looked at the website. Instead of getting too engrossed in the goods, I looked to find out whether they charged sales tax. Our California sales tax recently went up 1% to 8.25% and I don’t like it. The site didn’t say whether they charged sales tax, so I telephoned them. They do charge sales tax, and with that, my purchase decision was made. Similarly, I recently ordered a netbook, but could not do so from a couple of well-respected electronic sites because they charge sales tax. I simply will not pay sales tax on a non-essential high ticket item, especially online. I did find the netbook tax-free, though, whew! LOL

Also, I was really hungry and considering going out to eat when I started listening to this podcast. I decided to keep listening and had a bowl of soup at home. Minimalist? ;)

I will be checking out both Leo’s and Penelope’s websites.

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